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re: Study: Deporting Illegal Aliens Saves Americans Billions in Tax Dollars

Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:55 pm to
Don't deport them, kill them where they stand.



Go ahead and cry, lowTboy
Posted by Jack Prenderville
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2019
183 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:57 pm to
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Again. Net. Positive.


So we need more Illegal Immigrants to further increase the success of this nation? Is that what you are saying?

We have 47%-48% of Americans paying income taxes. What happens when this number gets to 35% and we have millions more Illegal Immigrants. Under you scenario this would be a Net Positive

It’s laughable.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3832 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 1:01 pm to
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If you can read, which is highly doubtful, read my posts. And stop your pathological lying.


You have a small penis, we get it.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122845 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 1:01 pm to
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I see the population with the most to lose here in the south is the non-college bound black population.



They've rendered their vote feckless by voting for the same party every election for 50 years.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5661 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 1:12 pm to
So your argument is that we should severely constrain immigration, even though it has shown to be a net positive economic benefit because the federal tax code doesn’t tax the poor enough?

That’s just a weak argument. That’s like saying we should ban e-commerce because it’s too hard to collect sales tax.

You don’t adopt policies that make your country less prosperous because you can’t figure out how to fairly levy an income tax.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 1:18 pm to
Why again are you for an open border free-for-those?
Posted by Jack Prenderville
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2019
183 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 1:18 pm to
Illegal Immigrants use more resources and money than they produce. That isn’t a Net Positive. The only reason we aren’t in worse shape than we already are is we still have 47% to 48% of Americans paying income taxes. This number is going to continue to shift left not right. It is only going to get lower. How on earth can anyone with a brain think more Illegal Immigrants will help in that scenario?

You simply don’t understand this. When one group generates 30 billion but uses 150 billion that isn’t a net positive and it never will be.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 1:57 pm to
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In fairness, the asylum seekers are legally here until their claims are adjudicated and this board goes apeshit about this group daily.


lol. Over 90% don’t show up for their court date.

Technically rapists are legally free until their court date.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5661 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:29 pm to
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You simply don’t understand this. When one group generates 30 billion but uses 150 billion that isn’t a net positive and it never will be.


Read the report. Over 3 generations, immigrants (illegal and legal) have been a $240B net positive.

Your presumption otherwise isn’t supported by credible evidence.

If you’re going to argue otherwise, produce a report that is as well researched and presented as the one from the National Academy of Science. When you support an argument on laughing emojis alone, you’re not really making a compelling argument.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:31 pm to
You are quoting left wing bullshite
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5661 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:33 pm to
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lol. Over 90% don’t show up for their court date.


In reality, between 60 and 75% actually do show.

Not great, but it’s a far cry from 90% in absentia. You’re just pulling numbers out your arse.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:35 pm to
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reality, between 60 and 75% actually do show.

You counting those who are detained? Or are you saying that number is for illegals facing removal proceedings that are on their own recognizance?.

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You’re just pulling numbers out your arse.


Speaking of. Link to your numbers??
Posted by DJT45
Member since Jul 2019
135 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:38 pm to
Did you show for yours?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:55 pm to
What? I haven’t posted any numbers. Try to keep up dummy.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:58 pm to
You don't say.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5661 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:58 pm to
From justice dept:
LINK
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 2:59 pm to
I don’t see any percentages there. Just total orders. And every order is in absentia. What is it you think you’re looking at? Where did you get the 60 percent number?
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8753 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 3:01 pm to
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No the real loss is the jobs legal citizens are losing to the illegals who work much cheaper. The real loss is when their illegal votes get counted. The real loss is a citizen showing up to the emergency room needing help and having to wait hours because all the illegals infront of them. The real loss is them on our welfare system and public education.


The fact that this has a down vote is troubling.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
5661 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 3:06 pm to
The 60% is rounded. I got it from politifact. But then I found more recent data this is nonpartisan and 100% accurate.

If you divide the In Absentia number by the total, you get the percentage of people who showed up to court after being detained.
For example, 2008 FY 4535 / 25346 = 17.9% no-shows. That’s 82.1% (1 - .179) that DID show.

378 / 2112 yields the same results. For some reason they reported the totals and also the monthly average. Presumably, the justice dept doesn’t think we can divide by 12.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 7/13/19 at 3:09 pm to
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The 60% is rounded. I got it from politifact.

So link it.

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If you divide the In Absentia number by the total


The link you supplied were all in absentia orders. Every single one. You don’t understand what you are looking at.
This post was edited on 7/13/19 at 3:11 pm
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