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re: Study: Deporting Illegal Aliens Saves Americans Billions in Tax Dollars
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:23 pm to davyjones
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:23 pm to davyjones
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Whereas OP is referring to category of illegal immigrants exclusively. Thus you're arguing apples to oranges.
This is a fair counterpunch. Surely, the illegal portion ( 11.1 M in the study) are a larger drain than the legal s (30M). But as a whole, they’re a net positive.
Can’t throw the baby out with the bat water.
Got to break eggs to make an omelette.
No solution will ever be perfect. You have to craft policy to have the best possible outcome, and a wall just isn’t it.
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You arent going to find many people here bitching about foreign born people here legally.
I’d like to think this were true. Maybe the Strannixes of this board have jaded me, but somehow I think that an increase in quotas from countries with brown people would be met with just as much contention as a DACA plan.
I think a much more relaxed immigration policy that allowed people to check in at the border would make illegal crossings easier to patrol and prosecute. The economic and humanitarian cost/benefit could be much better regulated than the Wild West system we have had for the past 75 years.
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Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:24 pm to NIH
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Would you support automatic deportation? Certainly, that would be cheaper.
Of course.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:27 pm to victoire sécurisé
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But as a whole, they’re a net positive.
No matter how many times this keeps being repeated it doesn’t make it true. We don’t even know how many Criminal Illegal Immigrants we have here but you want to keep parroting this like it is set in stone?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:28 pm to TBoy
I'm glad you agree. It's a shame the Democratic field wants to encourage open borders.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:32 pm to Mulat
if they are illegal they should go.
if true legitimate asylum seekers they need their day in court.
if served in military honorably they should stay as a citizen.
i have no problem with deporting illegals.
i want my tax dollars spent for Americans.
libs should move if they dont like illegals being deported
if true legitimate asylum seekers they need their day in court.
if served in military honorably they should stay as a citizen.
i have no problem with deporting illegals.
i want my tax dollars spent for Americans.
libs should move if they dont like illegals being deported
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:33 pm to Jack Prenderville
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keep parroting this like it is set in stone
Fair enough. But the best-researched paper I have read seems to indicate that it’s true, makes a compelling argument. It’s fair to argue that I’m more inclined to believe it because it fits my worldview where I see immigrants (some legal some maybe not) doing great work and contributing to an economy every day.
But if you’re going to complain that I keep parroting it as if it’s set in stone, shouldn’t you take a look in the mirror? It’s not exactly set in stone that illegals are nothing but a plague of economic and social woes.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:35 pm to victoire sécurisé
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my worldview where I see immigrants (some legal some maybe not) doing great work and contributing to an economy every day.
Hunger is a powerful motivator. If our entitlement system wasn't contributing to our poor being fat and lazy, I suspect they would be doing many of the jobs that illegal aliens are coming here for.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:37 pm to NIH
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It's a shame the Democratic field wants to encourage open borders.
They are not considering the harm that this causes to our own unskilled labor communities. If they don’t get wise soon, they will lose support of labor forever. This isn’t difficult to understand. But I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness. The democrats are really blowing a great opportunity to actually improve the system in a humane way. They just have to re-figure out why we have labor and immigration law.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:38 pm to victoire sécurisé
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policy that allowed people to check in at the border would make illegal crossings easier to patrol and prosecute.
If we can figure this out and revise the current unmonitored roaming about the country pending asylum hearing...we're working with something there.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:39 pm to victoire sécurisé
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It’s not exactly set in stone that illegals are nothing but a plague of economic and social woes.
Ask any Police Officer, Emergency Room Nurse, or School Teacher. They will tell you point blank the amount of resources Illegal Immigrants consume.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:39 pm to TBoy
they're making a calculated decision to favor minority voters (potential and existing) over white dominated labor voters.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:39 pm to NIH
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Hunger is a powerful motivator. If our entitlement system wasn't contributing to our poor being fat and lazy, I suspect they would be doing many of the jobs that illegal aliens are coming here for.
Even though I am in favor of a limited social safety net, it’s hard to argue with this. The evidence coming from Central America is pretty hard to refute. People are literally walking across a barren desert and risking their lives to have the privilege of working as laborers.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:42 pm to victoire sécurisé
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People are literally walking across a barren desert and risking their lives to have the privilege of working as laborers.
You left out the part about all the free entitlements they get for their children at the expense of the American taxpayers.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:43 pm to victoire sécurisé
It’s amazing (disgusting) how many abled bodied men and women walk around aimlessly during the day in poor neighborhoods in South Louisiana. Many of whom are fat.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:43 pm to Hogs78
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Nothing you say has any morals and breaks most of our laws before it gets off the ground. Must be awful to be as miserable as you. ...
Positions on illegal immigration not withstanding, aren't you in here comparing people to turds?
You can stop beating that morality drum. Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:44 pm to NIH
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white dominated labor voters.
I see the population with the most to lose here in the south is the non-college bound black population.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:45 pm to Jack Prenderville
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Ask any Police Officer, Emergency Room Nurse, or School Teacher. They will tell you point blank the amount of resources Illegal Immigrants consume.
Nobody, even the study I keep referring to says that there is no cost. Specifically, the study says gen 1 immigrants cost $57B. But then it says there was a $258B net positive after gen 2 & 3.
So yes, your cop, teacher or ER responder might tell you that immigrants are a drain on their systems. They would be correct. They would also be able to take credit for a large economic benefit. Isn’t that, after all why we pay those public servants in the first place?
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:46 pm to TBoy
Ok low T ill take my Hot blonde wife in there with me.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:47 pm to Jack Prenderville
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You left out the part about all the free entitlements they get for their children at the expense of the American taxpayers.
Again. Net. Positive.
Posted on 7/13/19 at 12:51 pm to Hogs78
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ill take my Hot blonde wife
You’re just embarrassing yourself
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