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re: Study: All Humanity Comes From One Couple.................... You don't say
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:44 am to blackrose890
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:44 am to blackrose890
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And there in lies the rub, there is no evidence for God.
Stopped reading.
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:47 am to Azkiger
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He had sons and they had wives that survived the flood as well.
Your opinion is that his sons did not descend from Noah and his wife? I hate to tell you, but Noah's and his wife's children all descended from the same two people...
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Also the flood occurred, according to the Bible's genological records, around 2400 BC. So the timeline doesnt fit.
I think it's more likely the timelines presented by science are incorrect. I base that on the fact that their timelines continue to get shorter and shorter. Doesn't really matter to me though. Either way, this study bolsters the Biblical record. Doesn't affect my mindset though. I already knew the Bible to be true.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:01 am to blackrose890
quote:He sees an idea or concept that he kind of likes, but does not generally understand very well. He then beats the idea with his head until both are approximately the same shape and consistency. He then hangs on to that idea like a rat terrier with the bone.quote:Yeah, can you give me the rundown on him?
First rodeo with Jdoc?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:07 am to Jjdoc
A catastrophic event you say? And animals too?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:08 am to Jjdoc
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All Humanity Comes From One Couple...
They must’ve fricked a lot.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:27 am to rickyh
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Tell that to the Mexicans and the people who live in Africa. Are their populations stagnant? The Sudan was having severe droughts years ago and every picture they showed had women with a baby in their arms, children at their feet and a growing fetus in the womb. Hard times and harsh conditions didn't stop population growth. It is the advanced societies that have stopped reproducing. Try as they might,human population will still over take the Earths ability to feed them all. But that is far away,or not. That being said, where are the graphs? Post them
I already posted the graph after the Neolithic Revolution, which supports my point. Poor countries are not hunter-gatherer societies. War and poverty keep countries in the early stages of demographic transition, with high birth rates and high death rates. These countries still have access to medical care, which helps lower the death rate, while the society isn't advanced enough to move into the later stages of demographic transition. The total fertility rate of Mexico has fallen to just above replacement, at 2.2, while the relatively undeveloped Subsaharan countries still have high TFRs. In comparison, the countries of North Africa, like Algeria, have a falling birth rate, now at 2.8, with the main difference between the two regions being the rate of capital development. Until you understand that hunter-gatherer societies are not synonymous with poor countries, then you won't understand what I'm saying.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:28 am to bmy
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do you even 100,000 years ago bro.
Pangaea started to break apart ~175 million years ago.
myth. Like anyone was there to observe it
Remember when we all were supposed to have come out of Africa, guess what? Things change. New discoveries, and all
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:32 am to rickyh
quote:You are acting like 3500 years ago the two people just walked to the local gym on Tuesday, hit it off, and boom, instant population growth started there.
The worlds population growth averages doubling close to every 50 years. In the year 2000 we hit 6 billion, !950- 3 billion, 1900 1.5 billion. Counting backwards this it takes less than 3500 years to reach 2. This accounts for the diseases and wars slowing the growth. Today many nations are actually losing growth because of contraception and abortion. Third world countries where they have much less food and more illnesses are experiencing population growth at much higher rates. It is totally impossible for mankind to have inhabited the Earth for the years that they claim. Totally impossible.
Did you ever think that on this huge as earth, there were pockets of civilizations about, and it took thousands of years for them to even come in contact with one another, spread diseases, die off, the strong survived, etc.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:34 am to RobbBobb
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Remember when we all were supposed to have come out of Africa, guess what? Things change. New discoveries, and all
If you are referring to the study about Graecopithecus, then you are fundamentally misunderstanding that study. The overwhelming amount of evidence suggests that Homo sapien sapiens came out of Africa.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:39 am to blackrose890
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while maintaining practically modern (first world) infant and mother mortality rates?
This is made up bullshite
LINK
Any reputable study will assure you that the average lifespan hasn't changed much over the course of history. 70 years on average. Even if you could prove that more children died at certain times, I can easily prove that families had 2 to 4 times as many children as today. The math just doesn't work.
You simply cannot go back 250,000 years and only have 6 billion people on the planet today
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:39 am to rickyh
quote:Yeah, it's also known as a pyramid scheme.
Have you ever heard of exponential growth?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:46 am to RobbBobb
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You simply cannot go back 250,000 years and only have 6 billion people on the planet today
Yes you can. Agriculture is a necessity for exponential growth. It wasn't developed until the Neolithic Revolution. You had stagnant growth for a few millennia before you saw the beginnings of exponential growth.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:47 am to blackrose890
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there is no evidence for God.
Agreed.
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That doesn't mean there isn't one
Agreed.
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Some lose faith and I will ask that you neither gain or lose faith based on anything I say.
Agreed.
What I will say, though, is that not only is there evidence for some sort of intelligent design (in the processes, not necessarily the final forms), it just seems intrinsically more likely for many of our known or strongly suspected events, e.g. Big Bang (as opposed to this infinite, unchanging, stable universe, which would favor pure randomness), evolution (particularly complex evolutionary patterns, even over long periods of time, where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts - seems more intentional and designed versus random).
Now, there's little direct "proof" of intelligent design, but there is even less for some sort of abiogenesis theory whereby a lifeless rock becomes teeming with life - just completely at random.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:53 am to Sayre
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Rain is fresh water. It would have diluted the oceans enough to kill all life in them and at the same time the organisms that lived in fresh water would have mixed in the water and died too
At least try to stay up on he latest scientific reasonings
LINK
It wasn't rain water, at all. The Earth was covered by a crust, and that's why the Bible records there had never been rain before. There wasn't enough water to initiate the H2O cycle
The water is believed to have burst through the crust (much like geysers), changing the landscape forever. Pushing certain areas (mountains) straight upwards, eroding most of the crust to the bottom, and breaking the continents apart. its no coincidence that the continents fit nicely together if you cut them up and use them as puzzle pieces (Pangaea theory)
Once the water settled you had the great seas, which initiated the water cycle as we know it. The saltiness of the sea would have resulted from the runoff of the elements that were once on land or trapped in the crust. Water based animals would have had time to adjust, as the salinity levels reached its median point
The crust theory also accounts for the fossil pits you find today. All washed together in a sudden, cataclysmic event
And plant life would have drifted about until he came to rest, and then began its growth cycle, yet again. Unless you've never heard of the dormancy of seeds?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:58 am to crazy4lsu
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Agriculture is a necessity for exponential growth. It wasn't developed until the Neolithic Revolution.
Go research the history of agriculture. And the history of language. And the history of domestication of animals
They all lead to a certain geographic area in Turkey. Which also happens to be the place where a book written over 6,000 years ago, said the ark came to rest
Odd isn't it?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:07 am to crazy4lsu
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If you are referring to the study about Graecopithecus, then you are fundamentally misunderstanding that study.
Well, good thing I was talking about DNA studies that show sapiens originated in Australia
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… it seems too far out to admit, but while Homo erectus was muddling along in the rest of the world, a few erectus had got to Australia and did something dramatically different – not even with stone tools – but it is here that Homo sapiens emerged and evolved.
LINK
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:20 am to RobbBobb
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LINK /
This study is hardly conclusive. It's actually quite modest in its claims, and it doesn't address the fossil record in Africa that predates the specimens in Australia. The study records specimens that date to around 60,000 years ago, but the fossil record in Africa dates to around 300,000 years ago, and is very robust in that regard. Indeed, the latest data (from 2017 as opposed to 1999 in your paper) says that peoples arrived in Australia 65,000 years ago. LINK
The overwhelming amount of DNA evidence and fossil record supports the Out-of-Africa hypothesis. From the Y-DNA data to the mitochondrial haplogroups also supports such conclusions. It's pretty much mainstream that anatomically modern humans developed in Africa, because all the data that we have supports such a conclusion.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:28 am to RobbBobb
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Go research the history of agriculture
Agriculture developed in three distinct places, if I remember rightly. It developed in West Asia, beginning in 12,000 years ago, with evidence of seedless fruits being planted in the Jordan Valley at around 11000 years ago. It developed in Neolithic China (rice and millet) and squash cultivation is thought to have begun around 10,000 years ago. All three began before 6,000 years ago.
By the history of language, I assume you mean history of writing. Independent writing systems developed in Egypt, China, West Asia, the Indus Valley, and possibly Central Europe. Writing was developed in Mesoamerica by 400 B.C.E. What exactly is this supposed to prove?
The domestication of animals also predates your 6,000 year window. Mesopotamia saw sheep domesticated around 9,000 years ago, along with pigs and cattle.
I don't see any coincidences, honestly.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:43 am to dawgfan24348
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So you trust a 2000 year old book over science
correct
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:48 am to imjustafatkid
Also the flood occurred, according to the Bible's genological records, around 2400 BC. So the timeline doesnt fit.
It fits with every human growth chart that I have ever seen.
It fits with every human growth chart that I have ever seen.
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