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re: Students are entering college unable to write
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:18 pm to Bigben891
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:18 pm to Bigben891
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the states where it is accepting to support lgbt actually have higher rates of education
Narrow it down to the blue shitholes counties that are spawning this crap.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:26 pm to djmed
I believe this. K-12 was never the best and since covid it’s been exponentially worse.
My daughter (elementary age) today said they talked about 9/11, somehow presidents came up and her teacher said Biden is a great president. This is her first year teaching fresh out of college. I’d rather these idiots who were in diapers at the time not teaching about 9/11 when they don’t know the full impact of that day. I was in 8th grade history when 9/11 happened and was deployed at 19.
My daughter (elementary age) today said they talked about 9/11, somehow presidents came up and her teacher said Biden is a great president. This is her first year teaching fresh out of college. I’d rather these idiots who were in diapers at the time not teaching about 9/11 when they don’t know the full impact of that day. I was in 8th grade history when 9/11 happened and was deployed at 19.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:28 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
And that orange man very bad.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:35 pm to momentoftruth87
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My daughter (elementary age) today said they talked about 9/11, somehow presidents came up and her teacher said Biden is a great president
I think mine started getting a light dusting of 9/11 education in 2nd or 3rd grade. Thankfully, our district seems to keep political stuff about presidents, etc. out of anything that the kids hear (according to a lack of such reports from my kids.) If anything, I've had to stop my eldest from talking the way his peers do (Trump is the best, etc.) I'm trying to train him to not make emotional statements when he doesn't have enough knowledge to back said statements up.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:41 pm to LemmyLives
I do the same. My kids know my political beliefs, aka value the constitution, but when they discuss it I tell them it’s not appropriate and enjoy being a kid. This mostly applies to my oldest.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:45 pm to Urban Moving Systems
You have arrived! Welcome! Or should I say Shalom?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:00 pm to djmed
This is what happens when you expect everyone to not only go through high school, but college as well.
You lower the standards until they’re meaningless.
You lower the standards until they’re meaningless.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:04 pm to Bigben891
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the states where it is accepting to support lgbt actually have higher rates of education, as well as better public education systems.
You were saying...
wmar2news - maryland-math-assessment-data-shows-decrease-in-proficiency-among-students
dailywire: a-whopping-85-of-maryland-students-are-not-proficient-in-math-after-covid-school-closures
Walters: California students among nation’s worst for math and language
State is falling short in some very important indices of societal achievement, such as public education
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:10 pm to trinidadtiger
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You ever seen obama sign a document, the way he curls his hand around the entire document, its so his writing leans right, he conformed like so many others.
I knew a guy once that told me he was supposed to be a leftie, but the Nuns at his preschool "convinced" him otherwise.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 7:26 pm to djmed
The most important thing schools do is indoctrinate the youth. Reading and math are secondary.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 7:57 pm to Plx1776
Most people don't understand how true this is
In the early 20th century, the objective was to make sure every kid learned to happily be a replaceable cog in the industrial machine. The old movie "Metropolis" took on a new meaning after I learned this.
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A “substantial education” is attained through the use of
memory and gives the individual the methods and
habits necessary to acquire the fundamentals of knowledge. The student is to “accept the authority of the
teacher for the truth of what he is told, and does not
question it or seek to obtain insight into the reason for
its being so.”
In the early 20th century, the objective was to make sure every kid learned to happily be a replaceable cog in the industrial machine. The old movie "Metropolis" took on a new meaning after I learned this.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:59 pm to trinidadtiger
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Im left handed and my script leans left. My elementary teacher told me its supposed to lean right and I told her that is because a right handed person invented it. She said you get an S-. I said its a small price to pay versus a lifetime of looking like some contortionist every time I want to sign a document.
I'm 64, I don't think people under 55 were around when the ol grade system of E, S, M, I, F was being used. I was in 3rd or 4th grade in the mid to late 60's when it was done away with and replaced with A,B,C,D,F.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:52 pm to Zach
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One problem is the method of teaching basic reading in 1st grade.
Before 1970 it was always phonetics. Then it turned to 'whole word.' Phonetics produced kids who could read much faster and comprehend better.
Most private schools realized this in the 80s and stuck with phonetics. Most public schools still use whole word.
You are exactly right.
When someone learns to read with phonetics it also allows them to see things in other languages and recognize roots, prefixes, and suffixes that come from derivative languages.
Even dead ones like Latin.
I would say 90%+ Americans don't realize how much Latin is incorporated into all Western languages.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:00 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
quote:truth.
When someone learns to read with phonetics it also allows them to see things in other languages and recognize roots, prefixes, and suffixes that come from derivative languages.
Even dead ones like Latin.
I always heard it referred to as "phonics". It is how I was taught as well.
An excerpt description: Phonics
Teach effective phonics using explicit, systematic instruction and practice. Students must learn to match a unit of sound (a phoneme) to the letter or letters that make the sound (a grapheme). Separating the written word into its individual sounds and blending the individual sounds of letters to make words is the foundation of reading.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:05 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
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phonetics it also allows them to see things in other languages and recognize roots, prefixes, and suffixes
Are we conflating phonics with phonetics? I don't remember hearing the latter while I was in primary school, just phonics.
I was in elementary school in the middle of the phonics movement. I never understood it. Schwa? Upside down e? Huh? I don't know what those are, and it sure as hell never helped me connect English, French, Spanish, and Italian words together. That was just me reading a lot (which didn't come from school, Department of Defense schools usually.)
Learning to see word roots doesn't, at least to me, have anything to do with the stupid word diagramming or whatever the hell they tried to teach me in the 80s.
My view is that the more you read, of everything, the less people need weird crutches. I admit I learn heavily from inferred context about words and their meanings, and it's not right for everyone.
Understand that the educational establishment benefits from making sure parents are confused at all times. This encourages parents to say stuff like, "I don't know how these teachers do it." The educational establishment likes that.
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