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re: Strip away whataboutism, election fraud, and specific GOPE policies, what does MAGA offer?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:43 am to GumboPot
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:43 am to GumboPot
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not using antitrust legislation to break up big corporations
the issue is the big corps grew larger over the past 5-6 years.
MAGA promotes BigCorp.
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
A decent economy
A willingness to try to keep illegals out of our country
The appointment of Supreme Court justices who voted to overturn Roe vs Wade
Energy policies that benefit the average American
Getting the United States out of the Iran nuclear deal and Paris climate agreement
A willingness to try to keep illegals out of our country
The appointment of Supreme Court justices who voted to overturn Roe vs Wade
Energy policies that benefit the average American
Getting the United States out of the Iran nuclear deal and Paris climate agreement
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
If you were interested in the truth of this rather than being mesmerized by your own biases , you could just do the kind of thought experiment we did back in debate class and imagine yourself as a Trump voter surveying the American scene. Then it would make immediate sense why people enthusiastically support him.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
Corporate growth is not the problem. The problem is the convergence of corporate and government interests. Corporations that profit from executing regime policy deserve what's coming. If you think Donald Trump is the one enabling that, or that he's doing so to a degree remotely close to what Barack, Soros and Joe are . . . you're out of your tree.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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Allowed people to make their own choices via freedom.
No it didn't.
What it did do is put the USA on a path to communism.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Where have I heard this before?
Oh yeah, every socialist in introductory poli sci classes.
BS. From Day one this nation's gov has played a role. ALL GOV plays a role.
No GOP voter believes otherwise.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:59 am to Jjdoc
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What it did do is put the USA on a path to communism.
Communism requires central planning, like tariffs and trade deals.
Free markets allow individuals to make individual choices.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:04 am to GumboPot
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Policies to increase energy supply and lower energy costs
Seems like a standard GOPe talking point. Pro-american energy, clean coal.
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Secure borders thus putting upward wage pressure on working class.
Again standard GOPe talking point. "Obama opened the border. Trump closed it. Biden opened it again. Now we need your help to close it". I haven't seen any commitment to increasing wages of the lowest earners from Trump and if he did take this as a policy direction he'd be met with howls of derision within his own party despite it being an extremely popular move with the electorate at large.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Communism requires central planning, like tariffs and trade deals.
You are so full of crap! The USA Gov was funded by Tariffs PRIOR to FDR who put in FREE TRADE! Are you saying the USA has been a communist nation for centuries!?
You are ignorant.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Free markets allow individuals to make individual choices.
No it does not. You will buy what the corps allow you to buy.
Tariffs were a part of the USA and funded the federal gov up until FDR who PUT IN FREE TRADE!
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
“Ignore the fact that the FBI, DOJ and DNC colluded with the MSM to go after Trump for 8 years now while they ignored corruption, treason, and democrats committing criminal acts. Ignore that the GOPe aligned with them. Ignore the fact that they lied about Hunter Bidens laptop in an attempt to influence an election and bypassed state constitutional laws to push mail in voting. Just ignore all of this and then tell me why you still support Trump.”
You are a pathetic little cuck
You are a pathetic little cuck
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
What policies made you vote for Biden over Trump?
Was it stuff like this?
Was it stuff like this?
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Pentagon considering plea deals for defendants in 9/11 attacks
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:13 am to Mephistopheles
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o increasing wages of the lowest earners from Trump
His tax cuts helped lower and middle earners the most, you got to keep more of your money.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:13 am to financetiger38
Look if you wanna come out and say "hey yeah I love Trump because he's been in a pissing match with the national intelligence apparatus and federal law enforcement" you can just come out and say it.
That is one genuine difference between him and the GOPe.
Obviously the next question will be why James Comey gave Trump such favorable treatment in 2016...
That is one genuine difference between him and the GOPe.
Obviously the next question will be why James Comey gave Trump such favorable treatment in 2016...
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:14 am to dgnx6
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His tax cuts helped lower and middle earners the most, you got to keep more of your money.
We were able to give more pay to our employees.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:15 am to Jjdoc
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No it does not. You will buy what the corps allow you to buy.
A basic economics class would benefit you greatly, and cut most of your posting on this board out.
So, you choose to subsidize woke corporations, and now claim we can only buy what the let us buy. Why would I subsidize that?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:16 am to Mephistopheles
You can come out and say you support the feds ignoring democrat corruption and crimes while they all collude to get the guy that’s actually trying to do shite for normal Americans and had the country rolling. Go ahead and say it. We all already know it’s true. fricking coward
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 9:19 am
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:16 am to Mephistopheles
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Again standard GOPe talking point. "Obama opened the border. Trump closed it. Biden opened it again. Now we need your help to close it". I haven't seen any commitment to increasing wages of the lowest earners from Trump and if he did take this as a policy direction he'd be met with howls of derision within his own party despite it being an extremely popular move with the electorate at large.
What commitment were you looking for on lowest earners? Minimum wage increase? If you want to help the low income workers keep illegal's from coming in the country. They are taking the low paying jobs. If there is a bigger demand for these workers than supply I can assure you wages would increase. Now that we have about 5 million low wage workers because of immigration you will not see low wage increases because the supply of them are high.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:17 am to Kracka
quote:SFP, you missed this one.
I think he would have gotten a lot more accomplished had he not had people in his own administration backstabbing him, secretly leaking stuff, and not have people suing to block all of his EO's.
Trump/MAGA gave us faux martyrdom on an unprecedented scale.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:19 am to Bulldogblitz
quote:As usual, you miss the point.quote:So, to phrase this another way, "why would anyone want to make America Great again"?
what does MAGA offer?
The question is "What did Trumpism DO to 'Make America Great Again,'" and the corollary ... did it even remotely succeed in that undertaking?
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