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re: st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:41 pm to CptBengal
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:41 pm to CptBengal
Their funding will get cut due to fewer students and the schools which are already so bad that white people are doing unprecedented shite to get away from them (while not actually moving) will get worse.
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:43 pm to SirWinston
Lol...so it's racist to not want to be taught in failing schools?
Wow.
Wow.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:44 pm to CptBengal
It's racist to gerrymander a new 75% white city out of an existing 50% black city.
It's also virtually unprecedented in modern day America
It's also virtually unprecedented in modern day America
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:48 pm to doubleb
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but to run the city of SG no extra taxes are necessary.
Consider this: the population of SG is roughly 50% that of Baton Rouge. The area covered by SG is larger than Baton Rouge.
Yet the "police" budgeted amount for SG is 4% that of Baton Rouge. That's not a typo....FOUR percent.
Reasonable? Only where unicorns roam......
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:50 pm to SirWinston
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racist to gerrymander a new 75% white city out of an existing 50% black city.
But technically, blacks are only about 14 percent off the population. Shouldn't it be closer to that percentage? In which case this is going the right direction
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:01 pm to SirWinston
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It's racist to gerrymander a new 75% white city out of an existing 50% black city.
No part of the proposed city of SG is in the current city of BR so your statement is false. SG will not take a single white (or black) out of the city of BR.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:14 pm to SirWinston
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It's astounding to me that SG supporters get a pass on the HUGE elephant in the room
The HUGE elephant in the room is those that tell us that a 50% black city is doomed to failure and that people who otherwise should just shut up, let corrupt schools continue, and not try to change things.
The truth is a more learned parish with more good schools can flourish better than a parish where people sit by and accept terrible schools and accept the fact that those with school age children are forced to spend their hard earned money on private schools or leave the parish.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:21 pm to LSURussian
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st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
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but to run the city of SG no extra taxes are necessary.
Consider this: the population of SG is roughly 50% that of Baton Rouge. The area covered by SG is larger than Baton Rouge.
Yet the "police" budgeted amount for SG is 4% that of Baton Rouge. That's not a typo....FOUR percent.
Reasonable? Only where unicorns roam......
Yet when BR annexes large tracts of pasture land in unincorporated EBR the city will quickly tell you it won't cost gem anything to serve those areas because no one lives there.
The fact is large areas ofvwetlands, swamps and pasture lands doesn't require near the police protection as does one city block in the 05 zip code, but once again Russian tries to equate apples to oranges.
The fact the net area of a city has a lot less to do with police protection especially when the same areas have no police force now other than the existing sheriff who wouod continuevtheir duties in SG.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:22 pm to doubleb
Incorporating SG won't do that.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:23 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
Incorporating SG won't do that.
Step one
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:23 pm to doubleb
And you completely ignored the population comparison. Why?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:24 pm to doubleb
And if there never is a step 2?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:29 pm to LSURussian
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Yet the "police" budgeted amount for SG is 4% that of Baton Rouge. That's not a typo....FOUR percent.
Hold up. They would still have to pay taxes to the sheriff's department whether they are patrolled or not. The big scam is that the Sherif wants Central to get their own police department so that EBRSO doesn't have to patrol the area, which is roughly the same size as Baton Rouge.
Of course, the Sheriff isn't proposing that he collects less money from the parish to do less work.
I mean, hopefully SG won't need a full-fledged police force. That would be quite a duplication of services in a state that already has more police officers per capita than any other state. The Sheriff better let some of those property taxes expire.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:35 pm to LSURussian
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Yet the "police" budgeted amount for SG is 4% that of Baton Rouge. That's not a typo....FOUR percent.
We already pay for EBRPSO. SG only needs a "chief" to act as a liaison to EBRPSO.
You look more and more ridiculous every time one of these threads pop up. Name-calling tantrums full of irrelevant arguments that seek only to change the focus from the previous statements you've run away from.
Please again explain to us how SG taxes will double from a school system you say EBRP won't approve, how 9+2-2=11, how Rainey is getting paid $100k, how SG organizers never filed paperwork, OR how BRPD and EBRPSO will no longer have mutual aid. Your list of asinine claims is impressive.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:42 pm to Asgard Device
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I mean, hopefully SG won't need a full-fledged police force.
The SG budget says there will be only 1 city policeman, the Chief of Police as required by state law. Then there will be $3 million given to the EBR Sheriff for "enhanced law enforcement services" for a total of $3.163 million for police. That compares to Baton Rouge's city police budget of $80.125 million for 2014.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:44 pm to doubleb
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You and Russian keep saying that, but to run the city of SG no extra taxes are necessary.
And the same thing applies to operating a new school district later on.
Now if new schools need to be built, a tax increase is possible but that is a capital outlay issue and not an operations issue.
Look around Baker school district is operating on the same millage as EBR, and they are broke. Central and Zachary have significantly higher millage rates. I know people assume EBR waste money, but they are actually fairly efficient when you look at the millage rates they operate on compared to other districts. Plus they have to provide busing service to parochial schools, and are required to fund charter schools with their money.
I just think people need to know there will be added cost to the current cost to have a separate city and school district. If that is okay with you, great. Just don't be naive and think it won't cost additional dollars.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:45 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
And you completely ignored the population comparison. Why?
Because comparing budgets based soley on population is ridiculous because all cities provide a variable amount of services.
For example the city of BR provides fire protection and a new SG city will not because we have a separate fire district which will not be run by the city.
Some citiesvlike Zachary have their own park system and water system. SG would not, we have BREC and we have a private water system.
When you compare city budgets you have to consider city services provided and not just population.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:46 pm to Sprocket46
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We already pay for EBRPSO.
How much? Where is it in the SG budget? Or are you confirming that the SG budget is woefully incomplete?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:47 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
And if there never is a step 2?
There will be a step two.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:49 pm to LSURussian
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for a total of $3.163 million for police. That compares to Baton Rouge's city police budget of $80.125 million for 2014.
That can be partially explained by people in the city of baton rouge will still be paying the Sheriff to patrol SG but SG is planning on no longer having to pay BRPD to patrol BR.
I don't expect the SG mouth-breathers to be honest or to know math but they probably aren't including the property taxes that go to the Sheriff into their "budgets." Nor should they. Separate entities.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 9:53 pm
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