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re: Steve Scalise: Law Required Corruption Rooted Out BEFORE Aid Was Released
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:30 pm to Strophie
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:30 pm to Strophie
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So one agency’s opinion.
Uh, yeah. The agency that has to provide clearance per the letter of the law. So, basically, the main "yes/no."
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Trump still gets to decide.
He sure does. Sure seems interesting that his opinion varied so widely. You'd think that if he were solely interested in making sure Ukraine was fighting corruption (as opposed to, i don't know, publicly claiming it was investigating his political opponents) the opinion of the agency who looks at those things would be enough. But yes, it's ultimately his call.
That certification was for FY 2016
You are fake news.
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:31 pm to 93and99
93and99. congrats on being a devoted idiot.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:49 pm to Robin Masters
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That certification was for FY 2016
Yeah. And it was sent to lawmakers by the Pentagon in May of this year, one month prior to the announcement of the intent to provide the $250MM in aid to Ukraine. Do you know the law? Does it require a restatement every year?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:51 pm to bmy
keep on believing that bullshite!Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:58 pm to Strophie
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Yeah. And it was sent to lawmakers by the Pentagon in May of this year, one month prior to the announcement of the intent to provide the $250MM in aid to Ukraine. Do you know the law? Does it require a restatement every year?
Well the certificate states it is for FY 2016. Not any other years. I would assume that means it’s only good for that year, as the letter clearly states.... Plus a new president had been elected.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:18 pm to civiltiger07
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This is interesting because as we all know Trump has been accused many times of being a Russian Agent or sympathizer. I would love for someone to explain why a "Russian Agent" would give defensive aid to Ukraine?
Could it possibly be because congress appropriated the Aid to Ukraine?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:32 pm to MMauler
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How in the world could Yovanovitch say with a straight face that she was there to help root out corruption when Biden's complete LOSER of a son is participating in that corruption -- AND SHE KNEW ABOUT IT BEFORE SHE EVER ACCEPTED THE GIG?
You can't be that stupid, can you?
Yea, she know about it because her employer, the State Department, told her about it.
What do you think she should have done about it?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:43 pm to MMauler
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And, the President has EVERY F*CKING RIGHT to ask for an investigation to make sure that money we give in the future isn't used in the same way that the Odumbf*ck administration turned a blind-eye towards because COKEHEAD Hunter needed $85K/month to score some blow.
Seriously, YOU JUST CANNOT BE THIS F*CKING STUPID.
Tell me, if Trump thought there was corruption being committed by Americans, why didn't he just start an FBI investigation into it himself?
Are you too fuking stupid to figure that out?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:46 pm to texridder
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if Trump thought there was corruption being committed by Americans, why didn't he just start an FBI investigation into it himself?
Are you too fuking stupid to figure that out?
Apparently, you are too stupid to figure it out. Go lay down, you’re a fricking lightweight
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:48 pm to DucTape
"David Duke without the baggage" can only have been talking about the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative. If you actually care enough about this to have an opinion, you should care enough to check whether he's representing it accurately. Fortunately I've done the hard work for you, and here it is: LINK
Whether he's ever read it remains an open question.
But you - yes, you! - can do better than our imbecilic, racist Congressman and read it for yourself. You'll want to to start by searching for' Ukraine' using Control-f. Once you do and you read on a little, you'll find this chestnut:
"129 STAT. 2379 PUBLIC LAW 114–113—DEC. 18, 2015 SEC. 8116. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used by the National Security Agency to— (1) conduct an acquisition pursuant to section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 for the purpose of targeting a United States person; or (2) acquire, monitor, or store the contents (as such term is defined in section 2510(8) of title 18, United States Code) of any electronic communication of a United States person from a provider of electronic communication services to the public pursuant to section 501 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978."
In other words, it is completely illegal to tie payment of the aid to investigation of any American. You know, the thing Oompa Loompa Mussolini specifically did.
Then you'll want to search for 'corruption' in connection with any assistance to Ukraine. Go ahead, you'll find the same thing I did - it simply does not appear (it does, however, appear with respect to South Sudan and Afghanistan, among other places).
So, you might want to start getting your information from people other than racist/fascist con artists like Scalise.
Of course, your use of the idiotic alt-right slang "cuck" means that you're a garbage human anyway, so little things like reason and facts don't play a part in your thinking.
Whether he's ever read it remains an open question.
But you - yes, you! - can do better than our imbecilic, racist Congressman and read it for yourself. You'll want to to start by searching for' Ukraine' using Control-f. Once you do and you read on a little, you'll find this chestnut:
"129 STAT. 2379 PUBLIC LAW 114–113—DEC. 18, 2015 SEC. 8116. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used by the National Security Agency to— (1) conduct an acquisition pursuant to section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 for the purpose of targeting a United States person; or (2) acquire, monitor, or store the contents (as such term is defined in section 2510(8) of title 18, United States Code) of any electronic communication of a United States person from a provider of electronic communication services to the public pursuant to section 501 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978."
In other words, it is completely illegal to tie payment of the aid to investigation of any American. You know, the thing Oompa Loompa Mussolini specifically did.
Then you'll want to search for 'corruption' in connection with any assistance to Ukraine. Go ahead, you'll find the same thing I did - it simply does not appear (it does, however, appear with respect to South Sudan and Afghanistan, among other places).
So, you might want to start getting your information from people other than racist/fascist con artists like Scalise.
Of course, your use of the idiotic alt-right slang "cuck" means that you're a garbage human anyway, so little things like reason and facts don't play a part in your thinking.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:55 pm to feanor70115
Folks, this is how you fricking MELT!!!
Bravo!!!
Bravo!!!
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:57 pm to texridder
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Tell me, if Trump thought there was corruption being committed by Americans, why didn't he just start an FBI investigation into it himself?
Are you too fuking stupid to figure that out?
The same FBI that was responsible for Muh Russians? Yeah, I’m sure he felt he could really trust those guys.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:06 pm to MMauler
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Second, Trump has never EXTORTED anyone or any country to make sure the Eric Trump wasn't criminally investigated.
So you think Biden was acting on his own when he threatened to pull the loan if Shokin wasn't fired?
You do? Then you must think Biden could have caused the U.S. to refuse to guarantee the $1 billion IMF loan all by himself?
No way. OK, then you must think that Biden went to Obama and said: "the Ukrainians are investigating my son for corruption, so I am going to threaten Ukraine that we will withhold the $1 billion IMF loan guarantee, if they don't drop the investigation, is that OK?"
You cannot be that fuking stupid, can you?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:10 pm to texridder
God , it’s almost unimaginable but you and cwill are getting worse every day.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:14 pm to texridder
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You do? Then you must think Biden could have caused the U.S. to refuse to guarantee the $1 billion IMF loan all by himself?
Ever heard of Bluffing? You don’t think a corrupt prosecutor from the most corrupt country in Europe would believe the VP of the US could do pretty much anything he wanted?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:21 pm to DucTape
Some people thought the phone calls were inappropriate by Donald Trump. No one will go on record to saying they believe the inappropriateness is impeachment worthy. The transcripts also don’t warrant impeachment, but maybe DJT’s tone was off putting to some. Color me shocked there.
This
Is
Nonsense
This
Is
Nonsense
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:32 pm to Robin Masters
20192019
Did you have trouble reading the letter ?
Did you miss this part of the letter?
Try again.
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That certification was for FY 2016
You are fake news.
Did you have trouble reading the letter ?
Did you miss this part of the letter?
quote:The Department of Defense Appropriations Act, H.R.2968, was passed May 23, 2019.
Pursuant to Section 9013 of the Department of Defense Appropriations Act 2019, we are notifying the Committees of this obligation.
Try again.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:39 pm to Turbeauxdog
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God, it’s almost unimaginable but you and cwill are getting worse every day.
Unfortunately for you, your level of ignorance remains constant.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:43 pm to Robin Masters
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That certification was for FY 2016
You are fake news.
Did you miss 2019 being referenced twice?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:53 pm to Bourre
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if Trump thought there was corruption being committed by Americans, why didn't he just start an FBI investigation into it himself?
Are you too fuking stupid to figure that out?
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Apparently, you are too stupid to figure it out. Go lay down, you’re a fricking lightweight.
Come on chickenshite. You can do better than that, can't you.
What am I too stupid to figure out?
I won't wait for an answer, because a weasel like you doesn't post back.
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