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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Something like three quarters of world coffee production is Arabica. It is more expensive than Robusto, but it's not because it's rare.


Actually it's 2/3. You didn't mention the REASON it's more expensive. It's MUCH more in demand due to taste.
You cannot make Robusto taste like Arabica through process.

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Anyway, Starbucks coffee tastes burnt because it is. Arabica beans are actually brighter and fruitier than Robusto, so the fact that Starbucks manages to butcher them to such an extent is almost impressive. Further, coffee "strength" is almost entirely predicated on coffee to water ratio. It has nothing to do with the darkness of the roast or the length of time the coffee is steeped. I can just as simply make an extremely strong cup of light roast as I can an extremely week cup of dark roast.


Almost all of this is wrong. Starbucks does not 'burn the coffee' or roast the beans differently than coffee shops that use Robusto. The taste is totally different to those who can tell.

The water ratio is SB vs. your house or the local gas station. Those who like weak coffee shouldn't go to SB.

The process difference you don't understand is pressure. The machines at SB infuse the coffee much differently than your home coffee maker. Hell, you could buy a home espresso machine and use Arabica beans and it won't taste like SB coffee.

As Alton Brown said 'You can do it. But the machine is gonna cost you about $5,000'

As I've said many times here. I don't mind people dissing SB. We really don't want your kind around us.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:20 pm to
You can get mad at me all you want soy boy. I copy and pasted the headline. If this triggers you then go scream at the sky because idgaf about how you feel.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:22 pm to
Still wrong.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:24 pm to
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You can get mad at me all you want soy boy. I copy and pasted the headline. If this triggers you then go scream at the sky because idgaf about how you feel.


I admire your dedication to being a moron.

You made a fool of yourself. Conservative posters called it out. Pretend I’m the issue.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:25 pm to
Still right. And since your argumentation method is boring as hell here's a pic:

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27196 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:25 pm to
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You can get mad at me all you want soy boy. I copy and pasted the headline. If this triggers you then go scream at the sky because idgaf about how you feel.




You copied and pasted a blatantly false headline. Congratulations: you posted fake news. Calling you out on your bullshite doesn't make someone a skyscreamer
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14867 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:25 pm to
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. I copy and pasted the headline.


The headline that couldn’t even get her title right?



Oh and she’s not newly appointed as she has been in her actual role for a while now. Oh, and I doubt she shocked Starbucks shareholders with these comments since she made them in 2015 when she was the Sam’s Club CEO.

This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:29 pm to
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Almost all of this is wrong. Starbucks does not 'burn the coffee' or roast the beans differently than coffee shops that use Robusto. The taste is totally different to those who can tell.

The water ratio is SB vs. your house or the local gas station. Those who like weak coffee shouldn't go to SB.

The process difference you don't understand is pressure. The machines at SB infuse the coffee much differently than your home coffee maker. Hell, you could buy a home espresso machine and use Arabica beans and it won't taste like SB coffee.

As Alton Brown said 'You can do it. But the machine is gonna cost you about $5,000'

As I've said many times here. I don't mind people dissing SB. We really don't want your kind around us.


I genuinely don't understand why you keep harping on Arabica beans. Any decent coffee shop is using Arabica beans. It's not like Starbucks has a monopoly on them

And I don't make espresso at home; I use a French Press. I'm not sure why you're discussing water ratio pertaining to espresso. Espresso is a pass through method, so ratio is irrelevant. Your pull cares about ground size, pressure, heat, and extraction time.

When I want espresso, I will order a cortado at a cafe I trust, and when I do, it kicks the shite out of anything I've ever ordered at Starbucks. Because, again, Starbucks burns their damned coffee
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11087 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:34 pm to
I don’t drink coffee makes your balls shrivel
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112619 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Any decent coffee shop is using Arabica beans.


No they don't. Joe Muggs (Books a Million) and the 3 lone start ups in Shreveport/Bossier that all failed did not.

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I'm not sure why you're discussing water ratio pertaining to espresso.


You brought up water ratio. People who don't like SB because of strength also don't like strong coffee made with less water. It's not taste to them, it's strength.

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When I want espresso, I will order a cortado at a cafe I trust, and when I do, it kicks the shite out of anything I've ever ordered at Starbucks.


Well, I'll have to try 'cafe I trust' when they start a shop around here.

BTW, the lone shops that failed all had one thing in common. They were run by women who got federal aff action loans for minorities. Did you know that white women were minorities?
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:41 pm to
I can't wait to see her surprise when she eats at a sushi restaurant.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29233 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:55 pm to
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The burned flavor is called Arabica. It's expensive (not as much as Civet) and you're probably used to Robusto which tastes like watery shite. Don't go to SB is you like weak coffee.



Nah they burn the beans to create a uniform flavor. It tastes bad plus over roasting burns off more of the caffeine chemical.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10540 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:01 pm to
She never said that. Holy shite what an indictment

With that said, she’ll single handedly destroy Starbucks which is fine because frick Starbucks.
Posted by Tractor Tug60
South Texas
Member since Apr 2018
3060 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:01 pm to
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FightnBobLafollette

Still triggered soy boi?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:07 pm to
As previously stated, If I triggered you then go scream at the sky.. idgaf how you feel
How do you feel about don lemon’s speech?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27196 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:07 pm to
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No they don't. Joe Muggs (Books a Million) and the 3 lone start ups in Shreveport/Bossier that all failed did not.



Can't speak to the "lone start ups", but Joe Muggs is fricking awful

In Baton Rouge, both Magpie and French Truck are serving Arabica. Those are the two I frequent, so I won't attempt to vouch for the others. But, as a general rule, if your beans are coming from Ethiopia or anywhere in central or south American other than Brazil, it's Arabica. Robusta simply isn't grown there.

This is an example of what French Truck has on offer at the moment, for instance: LINK
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
112619 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Nah they burn the beans to create a uniform flavor. It tastes bad plus over roasting burns off more of the caffeine chemical.


No, there is no such thing as a 'uniform' flavor. It's good or bad. The reason they are so popular all over the world is because it tastes good to people who can tell the difference.
Caffeine is irrelevant to the taste. Blond roast has more caffeine but it tastes like water. That's why my buddy orders blond. He can't take a quad espresso.
The strength of coffee is derived over 100s of years of proximity. It's why people from New Orleans like stronger coffee than people from Denver. As coffee moved away from ports of entry it became lighter to conserve. That was handed down through generations.

I started out on Community Coffee at age 4. My tastes for strength increased over time.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10540 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:14 pm to
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If I triggered you then go scream at the sky.. idgaf how you feel
youre just perpetuating fake news, idiot.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27196 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:14 pm to
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The strength of coffee is derived over 100s of years of proximity. It's why people from New Orleans like stronger coffee than people from Denver. As coffee moved away from ports of entry it became lighter to conserve. That was handed down through generations.


People from New Orleans take fricking chicory in their coffee. They are hardly paragons of taste on the subject
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112619 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 2:18 pm to
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In Baton Rouge, both Magpie and French Truck are serving Arabica.


We don't have that here. But it does remind me that years ago SB and some other shops served coffee in a ceramic coffee cup with a saucer underneath.

I don't remember when that stopped but I guess it was because so many people wanted coffee to go and paper was cheaper than washing dishes. The actual heavy coffee cup reminded me of my childhood. All I needed was a slice of buttered toast and The Morning Advocate newspaper and I was off walking to 2nd grade class.
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