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re: St George proponents think they'll make the November ballot
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:28 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:28 pm to LSURussian
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BRPD has jurisdiction within the city limits & the sheriff has jurisdiction outside the city limits.
I understand how it works on paper. But we aren't really dealing with areas. We're dealing with specific businesses located in the middle of a full blown EBRSO areas. How far out does BRPD patrol? What incentive does the EBRSO have for focusing manpower in those areas surrounding those businesses going forward?
I was really asking Speedy to see if he had heard any water cooler talk about it.
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What "current discussions"?
The annex discussions.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 11:29 pm
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:31 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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You aren't thinking long term here at all or at the potential damaging effects that the proposed St. George area would have on BR. For example, BR probably wouldn't even be able to afford the tax incentives to a company like IBM in the first place.
I'm confused. You just "lol ok'ed" me because I said BR would need more tax revenue even after getting those businesses and then you say the above.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:32 pm to SPEEDY
I forgot about the different retirement systems. Good point.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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You aren't thinking long term here at all or at the potential damaging effects that the proposed St. George area would have on BR. For example, BR probably wouldn't even be able to afford the tax incentives to a company like IBM in the first place.
And, you aren't considering what an affluent suburb with quality schools would do to attract business to nearby Baton Rouge.
Any problems that Baton Rouge encounters if/when St. George incorporates will simply be a result of the failures of the Baton Rouge. What you are saying is that many of these problems are masked due to the happenstance of being located next to an affluent unincorporated part of the parish.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:35 pm to theunknownknight
quote:No, we're not. The city limits must be contiguous. There will not be "islands" of city surrounded by a sea of unincorporated area.
We're dealing with specific businesses located in the middle of a full blown EBRSO areas
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:37 pm to LSURussian
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No, we're not. The city limits must be contiguous. There will not be "islands" of city surrounded by a sea of unincorporated area.
Where's the proposed post annex map? I wanna see how they are going to connect these businesses to make them contiguous.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:43 pm to theunknownknight
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I'm confused. You just "lol ok'ed" me because I said BR would need more tax revenue even after getting those businesses and then you say the above.
I was explaining what would happen if Baton Rouge didn't get the Mall.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:44 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I was explaining what would happen if Baton Rouge didn't get the Mall.
Ok. BR gets the mall. What harm does SG bring then? I don't understand the strong arming of BATON ROUGE in this whole deal if everything is fine. What's the real problem?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:45 pm to moneyg
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And, you aren't considering what an affluent suburb with quality schools would do to attract business to nearby Baton Rouge.
Any problems that Baton Rouge encounters if/when St. George incorporates will simply be a result of the failures of the Baton Rouge. What you are saying is that many of these problems are masked due to the happenstance of being located next to an affluent unincorporated part of the parish.
Problems aren't masked because of the affluent St. George. Problems will be created if BR loses all of its sales tax revenue. I'm honestly fine with a separate school district. I'm not fine with a separate city as a whole and the loss of millions from the City-Parish budget.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:45 pm to theunknownknight
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Ok. BR gets the mall. What harm does SG bring then? I don't understand the strong arming of BATON ROUGE in this whole deal if everything is fine. What's the real problem?
It's a scare tactic.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:46 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I'm honestly fine with a separate school district.
My understanding is that BR was not fine with this.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:48 pm to theunknownknight
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Ok. BR gets the mall. What harm does SG bring then? I don't understand the strong arming of BATON ROUGE in this whole deal if everything is fine. What's the real problem?
Man its really not that complicated. Baton Rouge isn't strong arming. St. George is trying to do something that would result in huge financial losses for the City-Parish budget. They are now simply trying to mitigate those losses by welcoming these business into the city limits.
This entire thing got heated when St. George tried taking the mall, perkins rowe, and L'auberge.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:48 pm to theunknownknight
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My understanding is that BR was not fine with this.
I think for myself. I'm sure there are people on both sides just like not everyone in St. George wants to incorporate.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:49 pm to theunknownknight
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Ok. BR gets the mall. What harm does SG bring then?
If BR gets the MoL & Perkins Rowe, SG won't be financially viable. Those loss of those areas would reduce SG's tax revenues by approximately half.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Man its really not that complicated. Baton Rouge isn't strong arming. St. George is trying to do something that would result in huge financial losses for the City-Parish budget. They are now simply trying to mitigate those losses by welcoming these business into the city limits.
So it IS about money for BR? Is that it? At the point BR gets those businesses, you still haven't answered my question: why are we still hearing BR people attacking the idea of SG?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:53 pm to LSURussian
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If BR gets the MoL & Perkins Rowe, SG won't be financially viable. Those loss of those areas would reduce SG's tax revenues by approximately half.
I don't care about all that. My question is simply this: if SG goes up for a vote in November anyway (after losing those businesses) and SG becomes a reality, how does that hurt BR?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:55 pm to theunknownknight
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So it IS about money for BR? Is that it? At the point BR gets those businesses, you still haven't answered my question: why are we still hearing BR people attacking the idea of SG?
I've never said it wasn't about money. For BR, it's all about money. For St. George, its all about money.
And these businesses haven't been annexed yet. Nothing has formally changed as of yet. If all these major businesses are annexed into the city limits, I dont think you will hear nearly the amount of opposition. People still don't want to see the community fragmented, but the outcry wont be as bad as it is now.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:55 pm to theunknownknight
quote:It hasn't happened yet.
At the point BR gets those businesses, you still haven't answered my question: why are we still hearing BR people attacking the idea of SG?
If BR annexes those retail areas you won't hear attacks on SG. SG will become moot.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:56 pm to theunknownknight
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I don't care about all that. My question is simply this: if SG goes up for a vote in November anyway (after losing those businesses) and SG becomes a reality, how does that hurt BR?
It may not depending on if the incoming revenue from those businesses replaces what is lost by the property taxes from St. George.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:57 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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For St. George, its all about money.
For St. George, it's all about schools.
The problem is that Baton Rouge doesn't want St. George to get a ISD either.
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