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re: Special Forces Assessment and Selection Selects Female
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:05 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:05 am to cajunangelle
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Is 'gender neutral test,' PC for made easier?
Just take all of the female standards for this and call then gender neutral. See? Everyone has to pass the same test and they didnt lower any standards to accomodate women.
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:07 am to MrCarton
If I'm not mistaken there was a woman that was in the BUDS pipeline but dropped out during the assessment course before BUDS. She didn't even make it through the 3 week assessment course. Reminder: BUDS is 21 week long divided into 3 phases. After that you will also have to attend SQT and then the never ending training you will have in between deployments. So in the grand scheme of things she made it through maybe 5% of becoming a Navy Seal. I doubt it will be much different for this girl. Special forces training is incredibly difficult to accomplish. It takes years of training and mental preparation to be able to make it through the rigors of the training. Most that try man or female drop out because they did not have the mental strength to pass. It takes a certain breed of people to be able to complete that kind of training.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:09 am to MrCarton
Couldn't she do the same thing from a CST?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:12 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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and just like the last one, she'll fail the Q.
Assuming they don't change the requirements.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:14 am to MrCarton
can she carry an injured 225lb male out of fire to cover?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:23 am to MrCarton
She will be pushed through like the Ranger school girls were.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:24 am to MrCarton
are you gone? Sign back in. I wanted to ask you a question.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:37 am to MrCarton
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Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:40 am to MrCarton
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Special Forces Assessment and Selection Selects Female
Someone got to make the sammiches
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:41 am to MrCarton
Wonder how many gag orders there will be associated with this bullshite
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:44 am to MrCarton
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candidate to be the first woman to become a Green Beret
Yeah, I don't see it advancing much past this unless they have gutted the Q... and I mean really gutted the Q...
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:47 am to MrCarton
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:04 am to The Maj
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Yeah, I don't see it advancing much past this unless they have gutted the Q... and I mean really gutted the Q...
Oh, they are gutting the Q. Small unit tactics was by far the most physically difficult portion of the course. Probably more painful that SFAS ever was, and it's gone from 2+ months in the field to 1 week. One. Week.
You can't learn SUT in one week. They don't care though. What they care about is pushing people (including women) through to keep the numbers up.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:10 am to Clear for the option
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Special forces training is incredibly difficult to accomplish. It takes years of training and mental preparation to be able to make it through the rigors of the training. Most that try man or female drop out because they did not have the mental strength to pass. It takes a certain breed of people to be able to complete that kind of training.
SF training was at one point largely correspondence courses. It's gone through a lot of changes over the years, and it's circled back on itself many times.
For a long time, SFQC was an extremely arduous, physically demanding training course with some pretty tough academic requirements. Language and medical training were, at one time, very challenging courses. The early to mid 2000s,sans the 18x debacle, were pretty good times relative to what we see now. Hell, the X Ray situation looks pretty good relative to where it's at now.
Things have changed though. SFAS and the SFQC have been nose-diving since the late 2010s, and in the last couple of years they've been moving very quickly to make the SFQC something that is a formality and friendly to female recruits. This started even before the Rand "Women in Service Review" debacle in the spring /summer of 2014.
It's a numbers game and a political game to these people.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:12 am to MrCarton
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Oh, they are gutting the Q. Small unit tactics was by far the most physically difficult portion of the course. Probably more painful that SFAS ever was, and it's gone from 2+ months in the field to 1 week. One. Week. You can't learn SUT in one week. They don't care though. What they care about is pushing people (including women) through to keep the numbers up.
My son just completed SUT and it was a six week course.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:13 am to MrCarton
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Small unit tactics was by far the most physically difficult portion of the course. Probably more painful that SFAS ever was, and it's gone from 2+ months in the field to 1 week. One. Week.
That is concerning since the 18x program is a thing.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:14 am to MontanaTiger
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My son just completed SUT and it was a six week course.
It's recently been changed. They will probably implement the changes in 2019. This change has been talked about for years. SUT was always a big failure point for students and commanders frequently attempted to massage the committee to keep graduation numbers up.
They've added a "FID" component that's 2 weeks (which is a joke), and reduced SUT to one week.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 11:18 am
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:19 am to MrCarton
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Things have changed though. SFAS and the SFQC have been nose-diving since the late 2010s, and in the last couple of years they've been moving very quickly to make the SFQC something that is a formality and friendly to female recruits. This started even before the Rand "Women in Service Review" debacle in the spring /summer of 2014. It's a numbers game and a political game to these people.
My son is in the Q course now, and says it is still damn tough. I don’t know how it compares to the past, but he is one tough animal, and if he says it is tough, then I believe him.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:37 am to MrCarton
Does this mean that we’re gonna need a new elite group. We can call them the Extra Special Forces.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:59 am to TheGooner
Gender is a social construct!
We need different standards for men and women!
I’m so confused....
We need different standards for men and women!
I’m so confused....
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