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re: Southern Baptist ban on women pastors fails in historic vote
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:03 pm to Squirrelmeister
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:03 pm to Squirrelmeister
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ETA: My answer to your stupid question about the morality beating a handicapped kid was on May 23.
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Posted by Squirrelmeister 5/23/24 at 10:29 pm to Prodigal Son
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It is not a social norm to beat up handicapped people in our society. Bearing up a handicapped person does not promote happiness and wellbeing without violating the rights of others
To which I replied:
Weird, huh? Like, every single time? Or just “as a societal norm?” Does 2+2 always equal four? Or just, normally?
Which, I’d like to add to that- that beating up handicapped children, for fun, absolutely promotes the happiness of the offender. Ah, but it violates the rights of the victim, right? Right. Hmmm… where do those rights come from? Well, according to the (preamble) Declaration of Independence, they come from God.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
I really like the “self-evident” part. It fits perfectly with Romans 1:18–20 (NASB95): 18 ?For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
But, I digress. You claim to have answered my question about whether or not it’s objectively wrong to beat up handicapped children for fun. So far, all you have given is a societal norm; which begs the question- if there is no objective standard of morality, then under what circumstances would it be morally permissible to beat up handicapped children for fun? When pressed, your final answer was:
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Because objective morality doesn’t exist
Not very convincing.
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 1:17 pm to texag7
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I wouldn’t feel comfortable with him being within 500 ft of any church
I regularly attend Catholic mass, go to communion, and do all the charitable stuff so that my kids will fit in well at Catholic school and so that the other parents won’t think I’m a godless heathen.
It ticks me off some that my tithing is contributing to the indoctrination of the brains of the gullible and to pay off the settlements of paedophile priests. But my kids ain’t going to public schools with the dregs of society and the blue haired tranny teachers.
They are smart kids. They will figure it out one day (that Christianity is fantasy) and I will have to explain to them that we purposely kept them ignorant for their own good so they could have the best childhood and get the best education.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 1:26 pm to Seldom Seen
Shame they didn't codify the sexism that the Bible demands.
Surprised they don't support slavery like some folks on this board based on biblical support....
Surprised they don't support slavery like some folks on this board based on biblical support....
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:12 pm to Prodigal Son
Bumped for Squirrelmeister’s inevitable response to how it is not objectively wrong to beat up handicapped children for fun.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:50 pm to Prodigal Son
Welll, THIS thread took a turn for the ugly!!
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:00 pm to Redbone
How so?
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:59 pm to JiminyCricket
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Yeah, King David was really thinking with his correct head when he impregnated another man's wife and then murdered him to cover it up.
Oh, good. Another halfass leftist retard who didn’t read the Bible.
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2 Samuel 11: 26 When Uriah’s wife heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him. 27 After the time of mourning was over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him a son. But the thing David had done displeased the Lord.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:15 am to Prodigal Son
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But only because I don’t need three. I only need one. Love your neighbor as yourself.
You’re cherry picking that one verse and ignoring the rest of the Bible. Does God set the standard of loving your neighbor when he baits Adam and Eve, when he destroys nearly all life in the flood, when he rains fire on Sodom from the Elohim in heaven, or when he commands Moses and Joshua to commit genocide? What about when God murders the Egyptian animals and firstborn? Does Jesus set the example of loving thy neighbor when he says to hate your family and that he brought a sword to slay all the unrighteous and non believers? Does Paul love his neighbors when he says he hopes the knife slips and the gentiles being circumcised gets their dicks cut off? Does Moses and Yahweh treat the 32 Midianite virgins as their neighbors? What about when Yahweh commands the Israelites to kill other neighboring tribes and destroy neighboring cities? Is that neighborly? What about when god says to stone rebellious children, witches, adulterers, sorcerers, and futtbuckers? What about when Yahweh tells the Israelites they may take slaves of the neighboring populations and may own them forever?
There is nothing objective in the Bible about how to treat your neighbor.
Try again.
Even if a god did exist, and even if that god was Yahweh, it still doesn’t make for any objective standards because there isn’t anything objective contained within the Bible about morality.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:13 am to Squirrelmeister
Me:
“Explain to me how it is not objectively wrong to beat up handicapped children for fun.”
Squirrelmeister:
“Explain to me how it is not objectively wrong to beat up handicapped children for fun.”
Squirrelmeister:
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:03 am to Prodigal Son
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Me:
“Explain to me how it is not objectively wrong to beat up handicapped children for fun.”
Squirrelmeister:
I don't have a dog in this hunt, but he answered your question clearly and with abundant information to support his POV
If you still don't think he answered your question, you need to go back and read his post again.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:35 am to Squirrelmeister
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They are smart kids. They will figure it out one day (that Christianity is fantasy) and I will have to explain to them that we purposely kept them ignorant for their own good so they could have the best childhood and get the best education.
Maybe I missed it…I’m not reading this whole thread to see. Question, why send them to catholic school? Are there no other options where you live? Are there no private, non-religious, schools available? That is the route I went…not cheap, but worth it.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:44 am to salty1
We can send them to any private school we want, from Catholic to Episcopal to non-denominational Protestant.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:45 am to Prodigal Son
You are no better than Foo.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:46 am to Squirrelmeister
All three of those are religious schools. There are no non-religious private schools available where you live?
Posted on 6/23/24 at 12:33 pm to Frank Black
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I don't have a dog in this hunt, but he answered your question clearly and with abundant information to support his POV
I don’t think so. The best he could muster was a social norm. That doesn’t answer the question, because it implies that something is only right or wrong based on our subjective experience. If that is the case, then surely you and he can point to at least a hypothetical scenario where beating up handicapped children for fun is morally acceptable.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:01 pm to Squirrelmeister
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You are no better than Foo.
If you’re referring to the way he refuses to let you off the hook when it comes to your inability to defend your irrational worldview- then, thanks.
Seriously though, I apologize if I have offended you. I figured, with our history of mildly insulting each other’s worldviews, that you would find humor in the posts. I’m just trying to follow this one single argument to its logical conclusion, but you’re constantly deflecting and avoiding the issue. If there is no objective standard of morality, then certainly you could provide an example of how, under certain subjective conditions, beating up handicapped children for fun is morally acceptable. But, you can’t. Which is why you keep trying to change the subject.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 2:20 pm to Prodigal Son
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If you’re referring to the way he refuses to let you off the hook when it comes to your inability to defend your irrational worldview- then, thanks
I am referring to the ways he dodges and refuses to answer legitimate questions.
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Seriously though, I apologize if I have offended you. I figured, with our history of mildly insulting each other’s worldviews, that you would find humor in the posts
Looks to me like you have given up trying to defend your positions and your faith and have resorted to trolling.
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I’m just trying to follow this one single argument to its logical conclusion, but you’re constantly deflecting and avoiding the issue.
Seems like you are trolling. I gave you my detailed thoughts, answered your questions, and yet you claim I won’t answer your question. Seems like yet another time you and your ilk are projecting your own faults onto others.
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If there is no objective standard of morality, then certainly you could provide an example of how, under certain subjective conditions, beating up handicapped children for fun is morally acceptable
That is a fallacious question. If archaeopteryx existed, then there is no god. If the world is a sphere, then there is no god. If we can’t explain how the Big Bang happened, that means Jesus Christ suffered and died for our sins to give us everlasting life. Do you see how these examples are fallacious?
No objective universal standard for morality exists. All we have is subjective morality. It is a fallacy to them claim if subjective morality exists, then I would be able to give you specific examples of your fantasies of bearing up handicapped children. The two have no bearing on each other. I can’t give you an example of how that could ever be morally acceptable using subjective ethics. Some real assholes from another culture may be able to but not me. Maybe you should look at Nazi ethics if that interests you. Maybe you should check out the ethics of the Yahweh-worshipping ancient Canaanite raiders who allegedly killed all those women, children, and babies all across lower Canaan a few thousand years ago.
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But, you can’t.
I never said I could. Why are you building a straw man?
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Which is why you keep trying to change the subject.
Subject was dead a month ago. I had already explained to you in all the detail I could to get my point across to you. You may disagree with my viewpoint, but I think you should accept that I answered your question.
It’s worth reiterating that there is nothing objective contained within the Bible anyway. All your arguments are moot. I copied my response from a month ago to my response to you earlier today (or yesterday, can’t remember).
It would be nice if you would response to my point rather than evading the question and projecting your lack of response - your fault - onto me.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:02 pm to salty1
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There are no non-religious private schools available where you live?
Not that I’m aware of. There’s definitely none that have a good tennis, golf, baseball, football, or soccer program.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:04 pm to Squirrelmeister
Privileged kids is exactly how Jesus said to spend money.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:13 pm to oklahogjr
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Privileged kids is exactly how Jesus said to spend money.
Yeah “he” also said some of those standing before him will not taste death until all the things he was doing takes place. I’m pretty sure all those guys are dead by now.
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