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re: Something was happening around ivermectin, and Big Pharma’s fingerprints were all over it

Posted on 7/17/23 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6826 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 2:58 pm to
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A self inflicted problem. Its being done on purpose.



I love a good global conspiracy, tell me more please
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5669 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 3:01 pm to
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I love a good global conspiracy, tell me more please


Do yourself a favor and look up who makes and distributes Ivermectine locally and globally. It will explain a lot. If that doesnt clue you in then I dont know how to help you. Also, check into what goes in it and where those ingredients are found.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 3:03 pm
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6826 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 3:02 pm to
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Do yourself a favor and look up who makes and distributes Ivermectine locally and globally. It will explain a lot. If that doesnt clue you in then I dont know how to help you.



can you please help me out and send me the source you are referring to? or do i have to just trust you?

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Brand names
It is sold under the brand names Heartgard, Sklice[95] and Stromectol[2] in the United States, Ivomec worldwide by Merial Animal Health, Mectizan in Canada by Merck, Iver-DT[96] in Nepal by Alive Pharmaceutical and Ivexterm in Mexico by Valeant Pharmaceuticals International. In Southeast Asian countries, it is marketed by Delta Pharma Ltd. under the trade name Scabo 6. The formulation for rosacea treatment is sold under the brand name Soolantra.[3] While in development, it was assigned the code MK-933 by Merck.[97]


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This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted by LSU4Life2021
Member since Dec 2021
812 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 3:03 pm to
I speak from direct experience...last summer, about this time, I came down with COVID. I already had HCQ on hand (had taken steps to acquire some beforehand) and the Ivermectin I took was the horse paste sold at Tractor Supply (just had to be go by the instructions I'd been given of 1 click/50 pounds of body weight). Just over 24 hrs later...it was like I'd never been sick. Never had the vaccine and never will.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6826 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 3:06 pm to
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I speak from direct experience...last summer, about this time, I came down with COVID. I already had HCQ on hand (had taken steps to acquire some beforehand) and the Ivermectin I took was the horse paste sold at Tractor Supply (just had to be go by the instructions I'd been given of 1 click/50 pounds of body weight). Just over 24 hrs later...it was like I'd never been sick. Never had the vaccine and never will.



you would have been absolutely fine, like 99.5% of people who got covid, after a day or two
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26361 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 3:14 pm to
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you would have been absolutely fine, like 99.5% of people who got covid, after a day or two


He would have lived almost certainly. But it has been scientifically proven that he would get better quicker doing what he did.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6826 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 3:15 pm to
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But it has been scientifically proven that he would get better quicker doing what he did.



I mean is there any data supporting this claim? ignoring anecdotal evidence on internet message boards
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6026 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 4:38 pm to
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Our search retrieved 379 studies and 14 registers in progress through four selected database searches and the L.OVE platform. After excluding 52 duplicates, 341 titles and abstracts were screened. Full-text articles for the remaining 33 records were retrieved, of which two were excluded for testing the drug for COVID-19 prophylaxis; [42, 43] four for retraction [21–24], two due to the study design (not RCT) [44, 45], one for including children [46], and one for a too short follow-up, having not assessed patients until recovery or death [47] (Fig. 1). One study was found through hand searching reference lists. Therefore, 25 studies were eligible for inclusion in this systematic review. No additional articles were retrieved from the reference lists of the included studies. Of the 25 included studies, 06 were available as preprints upon the time of submission of the present study [48–53].



Does this mean that you linked a study of 25 out of 379 other studies, and their conclusion of those 25 studies is that Ivermectin didn't help?

I remember following things pretty closely, and most of the studies that showed no benefit were conducted on patients that had been hospitalized many days, and it was a last ditch effort. That doesn't disprove that early treatment is effective.

My personal story, tested positive in April 2022 both at home and at urgent care. I took the tractor supply horse paste for 4 days. Donated blood in May 2022, and tested negative for covid antibodies. So, either it was a false positive since my blood didn't contain antibodies, which is what the blood center told me, or the horse paste worked so well that there was no trace of covid left in my body a month later.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 4:41 pm to
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Does this mean that you linked a study of 25 out of 379 other studies, and their conclusion of those 25 studies is that Ivermectin didn't help?


That's how a systematic review works. Welcome to it.

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I remember following things pretty closely


Either you didn't follow it or you didn't understand it, if you're still of the mind that it was a good thing to take ivermectin for Covid-19.

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My personal story


The plural of anecdote remains, to this day, not data.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54002 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 4:42 pm to
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You fricking idiot. Trump said live on TV that he took HCQ. Neil Cuvuto almost had a heart attack when they cut the feed. frick off dumbass.


Trump took monoclonal antibodies too and the Bureaucratic State health experts originally downplayed that therapeutic too.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4664 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 4:58 pm to
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“ you would have been absolutely fine,like 99.5% of people who got Covid,after a day or two”

I don’t think 99.5% of people got over in it in a day or two.Quite a few of people I talked to it was a 5-10 day illness during which they felt really bad such as the Dr.I mentioned in an earlier post who stated “it put him on his butt for 10 days”

I would much rather the experience I and my grandchildren had.Take the ivermectin and be over it in 24 hrs.I had fever,severe cough and muscle aches,felt like crap.
There were some outliers to be sure,a few people I talked to it was just a case of the sniffles for a day or two.My wife had a co-worker that never remembered being sick but tested positive for antibodies.

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“ I mean is there any data supporting this claim?”

I’m too stupid to do links but American Journal of Therapeutics2021 May-June had a meta analysis of 18 studies.You can look it up.

The conclusion: Meta -analyses based on 18 randomized and observational trials of ivermectin in Covid-19 have found large,statistically significant reductions in mortality,time to clinical recovery,and time to viral clearance.Fuethermore,results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting Covid-19 with the regular use of ivermectin.Finally,the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of Covid 19 has been identified.

And yet our corrupt Medical Industrial Complex aided and abetted by the MSM declared there was no proof ivermectin was of any benefit.Also,was alleged that ivermectin was dangerous and could cause significant side effects ignoring the many millions of doses given in Africa and other countries where river blindness and elephantiasis are endemic without any significant side effects.

Any problems caused here was due to people being forced to buy ivermectin from feed stores and not knowing how to properly dose it.I read about 1 moron gave it to himself IV and got seriously ill.Ivermectin is never given IV to any animal.



Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5903 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:24 pm to
look into Barry and Honey Sherman,the founder of Apotex,murdered in Canada
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