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re: Someone please explain the historical hatred of Jews...

Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:28 pm to
No doubt. There are a couple of hilarious ones I've heard. During the "Cola" wars in the Indian subcontinent, someone spread the rumor that Pepsi stood for "Pay every penny to support Israel," which resulted in Coca-Cola effectively winning the Pakistani market, from what I was told.

There are some hilarious conspiracy theories involving Jews, and depending on where you are, either Sunni's or Shias, with the plot always revolving around colluding with Jews and America to keep whatever target down.
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Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:31 pm to
Jewish people are a primary bankroller of Cultural Marxism. This is an uncomfortable truth. A majority of Jewish Americans prescribe to a largely ruinous Statist creed that is divisive in nature. Catholics were historically the antidote to this, but now they are throwing in as well.
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Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:35 pm to
dictators or their equivalents need someone to hate to give their minions someone to hate as well in order to control the agenda. angry people are easier to manipulate. see, for instance, what is happening today in America.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:38 pm to
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No doubt. There are a couple of hilarious ones I've heard. During the "Cola" wars in the Indian subcontinent, someone spread the rumor that Pepsi stood for "Pay every penny to support Israel," which resulted in Coca-Cola effectively winning the Pakistani market, from what I was told.

There are some hilarious conspiracy theories involving Jews, and depending on where you are, either Sunni's or Shias, with the plot always revolving around colluding with Jews and America to keep whatever target down


You wouldn’t believe some of the conspiracies I heard about Jews and Israel (and America, in some cases) I heard while in Iraq and the Middle East.

Not standard conspiracy theory trope but extremely off the wall - and trivial - plots by the Jews and Israel. Just absurd stuff.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:39 pm to
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The Jews will always be God's People. They were still God's People when they were enslaved by Egypt and they were still God's People when they built the Golden Calf. Their priests placed Jewish Law above Jesus' message and let the Romans crucify Jesus, they're still God's People.


I don’t know how anybody could read the Bible and believe this. It’s not surprising though since most Christians have never read the Bible cover to cover even once.

Christians are God’s chosen people, friend. They are Abraham’s seed and the promise thereof belongs to them (Gal 3:29). It really couldn’t be any clearer. It’s a major theme throughout the NT. Read the parable of the vineyard and the husbandman, the parable of the wedding, or the parable of the olive tree.

Just take this one example:
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But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[a] of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith.


The olive tree is obviously Jesus and whoever is a branch of this tree are obviously the saved or chosen. The originals were broken off and we grafted on.

It goes on to say:
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So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.


So even those that were grafted on can be removed and the natural grafted back on if they don’t continue in unbelief and believe on Christ. This proves that bloodlines have absolutely nothing to do with it. Believeing on Christ is what makes you a part of this tree and God’s chosen people. It’s not your parentage or bloodline as God is not a respecter of persons.

Jesus said you can’t have the Father without the Son. He said if you really believe Moses then you would believe him. Jews (the religion not the ethnicity) therefore do not have the Father or even believe the Books of Moses. Or Is Jesus a liar?

I don’t know how it could made any simpler.
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 12:47 pm to
People over think the reason why jews were hated throughout history. To me, it's simple; they were a large minority population in their area.

This is why people think southerners are racist to blacks. It's not because we are any more or any less racist than any other majority population, it's simply that blacks are a bigger percent of the population here than anywhere else in the country.

I'd consider New Yorkers racist too. They just have it towards other minority groups that happened to have larger populations in that state. For instance, southerners were never accused of hating the Irish. That was the Yankees. We simply didn't have large amounts of those people in the south to be on our radar.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:10 pm to
Jews are very intelligent and always position themselves high in business and Govt, particularly financial institutions. So when things go wrong they then get used as a scapegoat by less intelligent people
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:16 pm to
hatred is such a strong word.....

it is also a word that relies upon knowing who is the hater.

Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Posted by Randman
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 3:09 pm to
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So even those that were grafted on can be removed and the natural grafted back on if they don’t continue in unbelief and believe on Christ. This proves that bloodlines have absolutely nothing to do with it. Believeing on Christ is what makes you a part of this tree and God’s chosen people. It’s not your parentage or bloodline as God is not a respecter of persons.



This is all true...But if you read the rest of the chapter:

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Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ.
26And so all Israel will be saved. As the Scriptures say,
“The one who rescues will come from Jerusalem,
and he will turn Israel away from ungodliness.
27And this is my covenant with them,
that I will take away their sins.”
28Many of the people of Israel are now enemies of the Good News, and this benefits you Gentiles. Yet they are still the people he loves because he chose their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
29For God’s gifts and his call can never be withdrawn.


This makes it clear the Jews are still chosen by God. It is Jesus who will turn them back to him when He returns, after the full number of Gentiles have come to Christ.

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For since their rejection meant that God offered salvation to the rest of the world, their acceptance will be even more wonderful. It will be life for those who were dead!


So apparently when they do finally put their faith in the Messiah, it's going to be even more glorious and wonderful than when the Gentiles were "grafted in".
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:04 pm to
No room for two women in the tent. Sarah tells Abraham to get rid of Hagar and his son Ishmael OR ELSE. Abraham kicks Hagar out. Hagar and her son are dying in the desert. God intervenes and saves Hagar and her son. Families have been fighting ever since.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:24 am to
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Jews and Christians have the exact same morals and beliefs, the only difference in the two is Jesus. I do believe it



You're completely wrong here, but you obviously attend some Scofield Bible, dispensationalist Hebrew-worshipping version of Protestant church.

You act as if there is no such thing as the Talmud. Look it up, and tell me how "close to Christianity" it is.

Christians and Jews share the same "Old Testament/Torah". That's it.

Saying Judeo-Christian is almost like saying Islamo-Christian. In fact, Islam has a more favorable view of Jesus Christ than Judaism does.
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