re: Some thoughts on IQ

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Id agree with this. Its why, despite having higher IQ, Asians actually invent much less technology, they just improve upon what others invented.

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There is a lot going on there, but two major issues:

1. Their education system compared to our educational system
2. Averaging out IQs means they can lack the same highs by avoiding the same lows. This is similar to the difference in American males/females, and why females are represented at a lower level in elite fields/accomplishments.

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At least 1

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I'm a bit away from the population being discussed, ITT.

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I'm a bit away from the population being discussed, ITT.

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Well then we know it’s at least possible to obtain a degree with a 50-60 IQ

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Don't get so offended Karen.

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You clearly don't understand the reference

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Many college degrees require little to no critical thought or problem solving.

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This isn't true. Even if you're talking about "art" or something, they're given assignments where they have to create certain things, in certain ways.

Pure creativity isn't going to solve that problem, without the analytical ability to understand the parameters involved and how to achieve the goal.

Spewing random creativity is not going to do anything for that student.

Understanding why other people are having dun doing the assignment isn't going to do anything for that student.

Being popular with the people who are capable of doing that assignment isn't going to do anything for that student.

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College degree is about checking boxes and paying your tax. Not really about learning anything or getting smarter.

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So someone with a mathematics degree didn't learn anything?

K

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I don’t think people realize how far out an outlier an 80 is lol.

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It's the 9th percentile, so 91% of the population has a higher IQ

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IQ is a measure of your ability to learn. not intelligence, per se.

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What? No.

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Prior to the 70s, there was a thought that anyone below an 85 IQ was mentally challenged. There were so many people that scored below an 85, that number was lowered to <75.

So here's the thing. There are a ton of people walking around with an IQ between 75 and 85 that seem normal. They have jobs, they have kids, some of them have college degrees and some are in Congress. Kamala Harris was estimated to have an IQ of 82 and she was a Senator and Vice President.

ChatGPT on jobs that an IQ of 80 can do:

Hospitality (barista, dishwasher, etc.)
Retail (cashiers, stockers)
Janitorial
Dog Walking
Food Prep

We have people ruling us that aren't qualified. That is a problem that people aren't talking about

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"I.Q. (intelligence quotient)" is merely a subjective societal assessment of how much you fit into the "intellect" favored in that particular society.

Have you heard of the Flynn Effect? It's a thing where the I.Q. of the entire planet rises 10 points every decade. If we subtract 10 points going backwards, the founding Americans were too dumb to swallow and breathe on their own, right? That's just a measure of how modernized the planet increasingly becomes across the board... even underprivileged countries with people don't have running water or indoor plumbing now have cheap smart phones and internet connectivity... so they have access to as much information (and porn) as the rest of the planet.

Nobody is worthlessly stupid. Everybody has an area that they're a genius in. One zip code values a PhD in Ancient Languages more than a diesel mechanic, another is the opposite. Someone who lives in a remote isolated village in the Amazon basin will have a very low "IQ," but put a Western genius in their place and they'll be dead in a week of starvation or something.

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Kamala Harris was estimated to have an IQ of 82

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I'm going to need a link because I don't believe this at all. I don't like her, she's extremely weird and socially awkward, but I don't believe she is dumb. She's certainly not as smart as she thinks she is, or her followers believe she is, but she is average to above average at least.

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but its silly to say that Asians havent had anomalies of IQ capable of the same things

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Nobody made that argument. They have fewer per capita.

Asians create and innovate plenty. I think you're underselling this.

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Where are the Asian Wright bros? Edison? Tesla? Henry Ford? Steve Jobs?

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Do you realize how much various Asian countries have "caught up" once Western values and industrialism were presented to them? We developed this culture over like 400 years. They adopted it in 40.