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re: Some good news to share
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:52 am to PsychTiger
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:52 am to PsychTiger
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Can basket weaving be taught online?
youtube video on basket weaving for beginners
Yep, looks like there's several options if someone doesn't like that one. No need to throw money away at a university.
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:56 am to anc
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Colleges are going to have to look at cost cutting measures
But the costs to the students...I mean parents ain't going down
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:58 am to Rattlehead82
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youtube video on basket weaving for beginners
Yep, looks like there's several options if someone doesn't like that one. No need to throw money away at a university.
I was mostly worried about athletes still being able to get enough credits to remain eligible.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:59 am to anc
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Colleges are going to have to look at cost cutting measures. The department at the top of the list at many colleges?
Inclusion and Diversity.
Good. frick those people. It's just a money scam at the end of the day.
What's the proof btw? You know this for a fact?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:59 am to NIH
Next they need to chop gender studies.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:02 am to NIH
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They’re just going to raise tuition and fees while lowering admissions standards.
Can't raise tuition if you dont need to build classrooms, dorms, or the other amenities that are typically found on college campuses.
The best possible thing that could happen to college education is turning it into an online endeavor as much as possible. The university bubble is here.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:20 am to Rattlehead82
As long as the same of student loans continues, the universities will just make up their losses by raising tuition and fees since they know the government will keep paying it.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:38 am to anc
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Some of these departments are bloated with a dozen $100k jobs with people in them that could not run the graveyard shift at Taco Bell. At one large university, there is a staff of 80 whose main job is to plan events for diversity and inclusion groups. The largest attendance at these events usually is around 50-60.
College administrators have figured that out - but never had the reason to cut them back. Corona gonna help rid the real virus hurting our colleges.
These people and departments never made sense from a dollars standpoint.
While I would love for colleges to use this as an opportunity to just go away from the "diversity department model" that exists today, I don't think it is going to happen.
I think you are just hoping it happens.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:40 am to anc
Have any put out any preliminary thoughts on an on campus fall semster?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:43 am to PsychTiger
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I was mostly worried about athletes still being able to get enough credits to remain eligible
fair enoughPosted on 4/3/20 at 10:45 am to moneyg
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These people and departments never made sense from a dollars standpoint.
Correct. But colleges have been swimming in money for the better part of the last decade. Coincidentally that's when Obama pulled Student Loans to the DOE.
These administrative positions have just been bloated over time. But the money has kept coming. In 2018, there started to be a small but noticeable decline in funding. In 2019, it got a little bigger, and colleges just started tightening the belt.
This thing has been a huge hit to college budgets. TCU lost $28 million. Other schools have just started to see how hard it is hitting. I suspect 20 percent (mostly small private schools) may not make it.
Birmingham Southern, for instance, has 13 days of operating capital. You might say - well that's a really small school with D3 athletics.
The University of Tulsa, a larger private school with D1 athletics has 28 days. Even a school like Southern Cal could only make it 10 months without additional revenue.
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:48 am to tiger91
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Have any put out any preliminary thoughts on an on campus fall semster?
I think everyone is hopefully planning on a normal fall.
Summer revenue is what most of us are worried about. Camps, clinics, conventions and such bring in a decent amount of revenue that helps. All but guaranteed to lose that.
In the fall you are going to look at students not coming back because (1) they or their parents are scared or (2) their parents lost a job and cant afford it
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:52 am to anc
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Colleges are going to have to look at cost cutting measures. The department at the top of the list at many colleges? Inclusion and Diversity.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:03 am to anc
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Correct. But colleges have been swimming in money for the better part of the last decade. Coincidentally that's when Obama pulled Student Loans to the DOE.
These administrative positions have just been bloated over time. But the money has kept coming. In 2018, there started to be a small but noticeable decline in funding. In 2019, it got a little bigger, and colleges just started tightening the belt.
This thing has been a huge hit to college budgets. TCU lost $28 million. Other schools have just started to see how hard it is hitting. I suspect 20 percent (mostly small private schools) may not make it.
Birmingham Southern, for instance, has 13 days of operating capital. You might say - well that's a really small school with D3 athletics.
The University of Tulsa, a larger private school with D1 athletics has 28 days. Even a school like Southern Cal could only make it 10 months without additional revenue.
LINK
You are thinking of this logically (from a business perspective), but it's not going to go that way.
You need to think of these departments as fixed costs. They are, unfortunately, a cost of doing business for the same reason that they exist in the first place. Without them, universities will have to fight off the charge of racism/etc. And, that will cost more than the departments.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:11 am to anc
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I think everyone is hopefully planning on a normal fall.
Summer revenue is what most of us are worried about. Camps, clinics, conventions and such bring in a decent amount of revenue that helps. All but guaranteed to lose that.
In the fall you are going to look at students not coming back because (1) they or their parents are scared or (2) their parents lost a job and cant afford it
I've read several posts from parents at my kids school that if it's online learning in the fall, they're not willing to pay out of state tuition for that. Some have just said their kids aren't going back as they're states away and want their kids home.
We've got a lease for an apartment in the fall .. even if it's online learning, I'm ok with going back I "think". I doubt any tuition adjustments will be made for oos fees; fortunately that is covered by scholarships in our situation.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:56 am to tiger91
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We've got a lease for an apartment in the fall .. even if it's online learning, I'm ok with going back I "think". I doubt any tuition adjustments will be made for oos fees; fortunately that is covered by scholarships in our situation.
This is a big deal in true college towns like Starkville and Oxford. Those leases have already been signed and most of the landlords aren't going to release them.
Again, we are preparing for normalcy to return in the fall, but if it doesn't, there is going to be massive problems everywhere in higher ed. Ole Miss and Alabama really count on OOS tuition. You're right - no one is going to pay that for online learning.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:59 am to anc
They've already got their hands out for the "reparation money".
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