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re: Solve this riddle - Ruben Gallego gets more votes than Kamala Harris

Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:19 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:19 am to
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There are NO DJT supporters that would cast a vote for anyone besides a GOP candidate straight down the board in this election.

Wrong.

And you didn't answer his question.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:20 am to
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We don’t know what it is but 86k is a big number. It’s 2% of all AZ registered voters, to which Republicans own 36% of statewide.

About 1/3 of their electorate are IND.

Lots of leeway for split tickets, especially with the shite show that Biden became after the debate. That doesn't mean they're now loyal to the GOP.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:22 am to
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Split ticket. Some people take pride in putting checks on power.


No. Didn't happen on the scale the numbers indicate it did. Definite shenanigans. I called this weeks ago. I knew the Dems/never trumpers would reserve shenanigans for the down ballot races and try to focus on blocking Trump's power and agenda in Congress. They were successful in some of the races but not in most of them. It was just too big to rig this time and too many eyes on them this time because of the shite they pulled in 2020 and 2022, but it doesn't mean they didn't try.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175755 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:23 am to
Strange people can't grasp that a hispanic man would pull some votes from a lot of hispanic people who voted for Trump and against a woman.

Trump did very well with hispanic men. Likely a lot of hispanic men in Arizona voted against both women, Kamala and Lake.

Poliboard: "They decided to cheat, but still let Trump win"
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4068 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:23 am to
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Over 1.5MM. So it’s very possible, just not likely considering the other election dynamics in this cycle.


Exactly. Consider that on average 65% of them showed up to vote and all of a sudden you're talking about 900K. I can't fathom that nearly 20% of them (in arguably the worst border state) would support this radical left lunatic that supports open borders, amnesty, wants to tear down the wall and has family ties to the cartels.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47978 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:23 am to
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Or, you could just let her go since she's never won anything,

Of someone e could post why they don’t like her so much they’d rather have a Dem they hate.

Seems to be pretty simple assignment.

But flunked for years.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:24 am to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465801 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:25 am to
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Strange people can't grasp that a hispanic man would pull some votes from a lot of hispanic people who voted for Trump and against a woman.


They've been programmed for muh fraud too much.

Also, admitting that the election was largely a referendum against Biden/Harris hurts other arguments (ironically, many associated with muh steal).

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Poliboard: "They decided to cheat, but still let Trump win"

It makes no sense.

But they also thought Kamala actually ended up with 20M fewer votes than Biden in 2024.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:25 am to
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Case in point
Posted by LuapGibb
Walker, LA
Member since Jul 2009
557 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:29 am to
It could be something as simple as some AZ voters didn’t want to vote for a female over a male candidate.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47978 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:30 am to
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larger share of the hispanic vote than Harris, particularly in his former House district

Thanks. That at least makes sense.

I’ll quit dogging this question now. Been trying for years to get at least one feasible answer.

I’m out.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9041 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:30 am to
She has now lost two races in which there appears to be some sketchy business going on. Personally, I like Kari Lake but I don't live in AZ and admittedly do not know an awful lot about her other than she is MAGA and a former media member. She is also easy on the eyes which doesn't hurt. But with two losses, regardless of how legit they are, she would serve AZ better by stepping aside and allowing someone to run who maybe has broader appeal. I'm sure DJT will find a place for her in his administration in some capacity.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46055 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:31 am to
Don’t disagree. Just saying that 86k (and counting) is a big gap between a D senate candidate and a D potus candidate in a presidential election year. In contrast, PA, MI, WI, and NV dem vote totals for Harris and the D senate candidate were extremely close.

Her camp is going to have to figure out soon whether she’s indeed the red Stacy Abrams. Either way, I’d say her moment is lost.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85907 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:31 am to
The desperate search for this board to find something other than "people don't like her" on Lake is strange

She's brash, she was a Democrat, and most of her messaging has been about cheating for four years. She was also all over the place on abortion, including on the 1864 Arizona law.

Lake probably could've been a good asset, but she's now lost two winnable races.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465801 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:33 am to
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Just saying that 86k (and counting) is a big gap between a D senate candidate and a D potus candidate in a presidential election year.


I agree, but that gap destroys "Fraud" allegations for this exact reason.

Voters splitting tickets is common and rational.

People with the ability to swing one election with fraud but electing their mortal enemy at the same time is not rational.

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In contrast, PA, MI, WI, and NV dem vote totals for Harris and the D senate candidate were extremely close.

Guarantee you all of these states have a smaller IND population than AZ

Also, how many had known losers like Lake running for a second time after an embarrassing loss 2 years ago?

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46055 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:34 am to
Speaking of all over the place, they elected Jeff fricking Flake over a Puerto Rican, so maybe Arizonans are just retarded.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465801 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:34 am to
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The desperate search for this board to find something other than "people don't like her" on Lake is strange


I'm telling you. They're more invested in "muh fraud" (which Lake was a central figure on for years) than anything other than Trump himself.

They can't admit that maybe, just maybe, they were silly.

Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:36 am to
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If your theory was sound, how did Trump win?


It was too big to rig and too many eyes on. Senate race vote count goes on for days in AZ,
That in itself seems "off".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465801 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:37 am to
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It was too big to rig and too many eyes on.

That doesn't answer the question.



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Senate race vote count goes on for days in AZ

You think they're only counting Senate votes?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46055 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 10:42 am to
PA and MI has about the same number of indys. So it could just be the Hispanic factor.
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