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re: Soldier collapses at Carter's funeral

Posted on 1/9/25 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by Tandemjay
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 6:58 pm to
Luckily we don't treat our fainted service men like the Brits use to.
Posted by coldbeerfan
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:17 pm to
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You would think servicemen doing presidential stuff would know not to lock the knees. Guess they don't realize it at the time till they hit the ground



To be an honor guard in any branch of the military is a great achievement and it’s taken very seriously by them. You have to be physically fit, mentally strong and disciplined. The majority of the honor guards when I served in the Army were special forces. The young man could’ve been sick but wanted to fulfill his duty and honor for the former president. Just guessing on that.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:20 pm to
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The fact no one responded immediately is so bizarre.



In that scenario on honor guard for a former president, the dumbass who locked his knees and passed out isn't anyone's job. You learn that from basic forward.

Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:26 pm to
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In that scenario on honor guard for a former president, the dumbass who locked his knees and passed out isn't anyone's job. You learn that from basic forward.


That's fine. I feel like some support staff should have moved in with a little more urgency, but I could be wrong.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Locking your knees can lead to fainting because it prevents your leg muscles from contracting, which normally helps pump blood back up to the heart, causing blood to pool in your legs and reducing the blood flow to your brain, potentially causing you to pass out.


Thank you.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:52 pm to
That guy fell almost as fast as Carter’s economy.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:54 pm to
TIL about knocking knees.
Posted by Mandtgr47
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:56 pm to
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That’s not out of the ordinary


correct. If you have ever been in the Military, they teach you not to lock your knees when standing at attention. When people do, they pass out.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:57 pm to
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happened to me once. learned my lesson
It happened to me twice in basic. I'm a slow learner.
Posted by Florida_Man1981
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:03 pm to
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Is this an actual thing?

If so, can someone explain why?


Cuts off circulation. Happens about every ceremony - big ceremonies will have a detail of soldiers to go drag the weak hearted to a medic tent after they fall.

I was in the battalion color guard when I was a joe. Our SNCOs made it abundantly clear what would happen to us if any of us ever let that happen to us.

Posted by Florida_Man1981
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:04 pm to
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That's fine. I feel like some support staff should have moved in with a little more urgency, but I could be wrong.


If you help them too fast it makes others think it's acceptable. Better to let them lay in shame for a bit.
Posted by Redbone
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:04 pm to
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I don’t understand why none of the other military members didn’t immediately raise the fainting marines legs above his head.
THAT's a big no-no. Those other guys better not flinch. Someone will help him. He wasn't shot.
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Just drugged him off like he was KIA.
They knew what they were doing. In a few minutes he will return to normal and be embarrassed as hell.
Posted by Sek
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:08 pm to
My husband served in the Old Guard and that guy is done. They practice for 6 months before they are even allowed to serve. He 100 percent should have known better ( if he locked his knees). I know all the army guys are infantry, Rangers not special forces ( green berets).
Posted by Florida_Man1981
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:10 pm to
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I don’t understand why none of the other military members didn’t immediately raise the fainting marines legs above his head.

THAT's a big no-no. Those other guys better not flinch. Someone will help him. He wasn't shot.

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Just drugged him off like he was KIA.

They knew what they were doing. In a few minutes he will return to normal and be embarrassed as hell.


"Thanks for your time on honor guard. Short notice tasking to Gitmo just came in - pack your duffels."
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:36 pm to
Probably thought Jimmy was going to try to airlift him into Tehran from the grave.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:44 pm to
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That's fine. I feel like some support staff should have moved in with a little more urgency, but I could be wrong.



Nope he simply fainted. Any rushing around detracts from the pomp of the ceremony and since it is a former president's funeral no one is going to do that.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:46 pm to
I've seen a lot of Sham Artists pull a lot of nonsense to get out of guard duty, but this guy takes the cake.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:47 pm to
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Happens to some people that lock their knees. Happens at weddings

I’ve heard that before, I get anxiety in front of a large group but I never felt that way during my wedding.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:47 pm to
That crayon casserole caught up to him.
Posted by stelly1025
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:01 pm to
Locked his knees. fricking rookie. Was on a Parade field in Ft. Rucker Alabama during a change of command ceremony in formation so I am behind a kid in our company who was 6'6 about a solid 260. He started to wobble and the big man started going down I had to catch him and then slide to the front without anyone noticing. Trick is not to lock your knees and slight movements.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 11:09 pm
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