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re: So..if Trump is truly in the Epstein files in a bad way (he is not)...

Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:35 am to
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:35 am to
Trump's not in the Epstein files. If he was we'd know it already. The files haven't been released because it's not in the interest of the political establishment to release them. There are likely a ton of Rs and Ds implicated, including Trump donors or allies. It's the latter that is keeping them from being released. Trump is protecting someone.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:38 am to
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Trump is protecting someone.



Or using it as leverage against everyone
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
23848 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:38 am to
Amazing how CNN had this as their top headline at one point - and then by the end of the day it was buried much further down.

So much BS
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
335 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:38 am to
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Why do you ppl lir ablut this?

Why


Why did you edit out the rest of my quote?

It is clear to any reasonable person that Trump's followers, and the right-wing echo chamber, talked about the Epstein files endlessly for years. Now they suddenly don't care. Now they push the lie that "Democrats blocked the Epstein files", when that is clearly false.

Why the sudden change?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:39 am to
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That question has already been answered, the Democrats didn't vote to block Epstein files.
They did. You can relegate that to "bad faith" all you'd like. It doesn't change the facts.

Regarding "bad faith spin" though, you've seen nothing yet. Dems and their media cohorts will spin this up like Akroid's bass in a blender. Divert, distract, delay, derail ... by any means necessary.

This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 6:40 am
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:41 am to
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Or using it as leverage against everyone
Interesting observation. Could you give us examples?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:41 am to
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Why did you edit out the rest of my quote?



You lied that Trump.ran on the epstein files. Why?

Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
335 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:44 am to
The revisionist history here is comical.

It is clear that the MAGA movement has been consumed with the Epstein files for years. They talked about it endlessly. Now they want to pretend they never really cared.

Comical.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:46 am to
Great non answer alter
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
335 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:47 am to
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They did.


They didn't. The vote is next week.

Burchett tried a stunt. Some folks fell for it, reasonable people did not.

Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
335 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:49 am to
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non answer


The MAGA echo chamber has screamed about releasing the Epstein files for years, suddenly they are not interested.

Why?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92355 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:50 am to
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The MAGA echo chamber has screamed about releasing the Epstein files for years, suddenly they are not interested.


Who knows. The skyscreamers about it are pathetic this entire fiasco

Why did you lie?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24184 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:53 am to
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Why did you lie?


Because he is a lib. It is in their DNA.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
976 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:56 am to
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So..if Trump is truly in the Epstein files in a bad way (he is not)...


It would have been exposed long before now. Epstein was convicted in 2008 and served 13 months, that is correct 1 year 1 month. Who was president when Epstein was convicted? The correct answer is George W. Bush and we know who followed GWB.

If Donald J. Trump was deep into the Epstein mess, then why didn't the Obama DOJ, CIA, and FBI leak that information instead of making up some stupid dossier and grand tale of collusion? The information may have been "sealed" but the information was available to the leadership of the agencies along with the Obama. If members of Congress have access to any information it would have been leaked way before now.

Politicians in congress cannot keep secrets unless it's about exposing their own because they are all a bunch of freaks, perverts and grifters who are afraid of exposing themselves if they expose others.

Politicians rely and focus on constituents who are ignorant and stupid.

This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 7:01 am
Posted by SoFlaGuy
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Member since Apr 2020
2343 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:59 am to
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Trump ran on the Epstein files


Find one rally where he said this. I recall maybe one interview where he was asked the question and he replied yes to releasing them.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
134909 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:59 am to
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.......Suddenly it is a nothingburger.
Why?
Hypothetically?

Trump had the DOJ contact Epstein's victims.
To a person, they said, "all of us knew about the cameras. There is no way we were going to have sex, or anything like that with strange men, and worse yet, knowing Epstein was filming it. So it was straight massage with those people.

In fact, we didn't even touch Epstein. He touched himself. It was disgusting. We were young. Now, we've been compensated through the victim's fund. We just want to put it behind us and move on. Please drop it."

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134909 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:01 am to
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They didn't. The vote is next week.

Burchett tried a stunt.
What did the dems do in response to the "stunt"?
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
32997 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:09 am to
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Trump ran on the Epstein files.

Well, youre a lying POS

Now we know not to trust anything you say. Which means we will ignore you
quote:

The claim that “Trump campaigned on releasing the Epstein files” has been frequently repeated by critics of the president.

Despite viral posts and opinion articles from left-leaning commentators portraying Trump as having pledged to “release the Epstein file,” the president never mentioned the issue in any major campaign speech, rally or policy announcement during the 2024 election.

Now frick off
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
8574 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:10 am to
These are new emails from Epstein's estate: 3 emails that reference Trump specifically. One explanation is he knew about the girls and asked Maxwell to stop. Another would be there's more. "The dog that hasn't barked"? What does that mean.

So if all that's true, why is Trump fighting so hard to avoid transparency?

Just release all of the information available and let the public decide.

Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
843 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:11 am to
They aren't releasing it because of 2 things imo:

1. Leverage for blackmail / political capital
2. Dems are also in it.
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