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re: So your doctor may be complicit too! (Vaccines & Covid)
Posted on 10/15/21 at 9:52 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 10/15/21 at 9:52 am to theunknownknight
He doesn't roll that way. He always lets me take it where I want to take it and then gives me guidance. I don't ask him anything that I haven't done my own research on and he always gives me worthwhile feedback. I trust him implicitly and he always gives me latitude to find answers myself.
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Posted on 10/15/21 at 9:57 am to TBoy
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Right wingers should never go to doctors or hospitals. Those places just peddle lies not approved by right wing media.
This coming from someone who believed and likely still believes RussiaGate, PissGate, Bounty on Troops, and all the other lies told on the previous administration
Posted on 10/15/21 at 9:59 am to TBoy
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Right wingers should never go to doctors or hospitals.
What's wrong with you far left extremist?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:00 am to crewdepoo
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Chicken should do something about the misinformation on this board
Which "misinformation" would you like corrected?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:14 am to AndyJ
Sure AndyJ! We believe you Dr. Death!
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:18 am to crewdepoo
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Chicken should do something about the misinformation on this board
Why don't you, LowT and Pouton start a crying thread instead of crying in everyone else's thread and fricking them all up with your stupid bullshite?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
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doctors can get back to practicing medicine again instead of being establishment drones.
What the frick are you babbling about.
You guys have a sliver of an idea about something. And now you have totally gone off the rails with it.
Complicit. Establishment.
Follow the money. Pfizer and Moderna are getting rich. But nobody else.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:48 am to TBoy
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Right wingers should never go to doctors or hospitals. Those places just peddle lies not approved by right wing media.
And vaccinated people should not go to the doctor or hospital ever either right. They are fully protected and got the only thing that matters for covid. No other treatments are necessary. Don't use ivermectin or other treatments completely dismissed by many medical professionals. All you need to do is listen to the facts, take your vaccine, and wear your mask like a good obeying sheep.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:53 am to ds_engineer
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I want to know why nearly the entire medical community instantly accepted mass adoption of a vaccine delivery method that has never been attempted before. I want to know, why a vaccine is needed for a virus with a 99.7% survivability
Because, at the end of the day, doctors are human.
So by definition, the majority will be lazy and do what they are told from authorities they are trained to be comfortable with trusting.
CDC and “studies” say “do that” and most doctors just agree and “do that”.
Very few people, in ANY profession, actually think for themselves. And doctors are no exception.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:56 am to TBoy
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Right wingers should never go to doctors or hospitals. Those places just peddle lies not approved by right wing media.
Says anonymous person on the I-net who gets dumbed-down info from twits, late night 'comics', and 'ladies' of The View.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:58 am to Themole
The real problem with health care,IMO is because of our corrupt CDC ,FDA and the Medical Industrial Complex.The Center For Medicare and Medicaid is the enforcement arm.
Health care is based on The International Classification of Diseases.We are currently on ICD 10. It is very complicated,there are umpteen thousand ICD codes,both diagnostic codes and procedural codes.For example there are,I think,28 codes just for congestive heart failure( R sided heart failure,L sided heart failure,with diabetes,without diabetes and so forth).Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement is based on ICD codes.The employees that do coding for reimbursement go through training but they don’t typically have a medical background.Therefore mistakes are made,both upcoding and down coding.
M & M also has approved lists of medications ,ivermectin is not on the approved list of medications.Protocals are also established under procedural codes that Drs.must follow for reimbursement so essentially what we have is “cookbook” medicine.
Drs.that accept M&M and hospitals aren’t allowed to deviate from protocols and approved lists of medications because Center for M&M monitors this closely.Deviations will trigger audits,invariably errors will be found ,errors where illnesses were up coded (in most cases) accidently.next thing the Dr, and hospital are being investigated for M&M fraud.
There is also accidental down coding but M&M doesn’t care about that.
Therefore Drs.and hospitals just go along to get along.
It’s the Golden Rule - he who has the gold makes the rules.
Health care is based on The International Classification of Diseases.We are currently on ICD 10. It is very complicated,there are umpteen thousand ICD codes,both diagnostic codes and procedural codes.For example there are,I think,28 codes just for congestive heart failure( R sided heart failure,L sided heart failure,with diabetes,without diabetes and so forth).Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement is based on ICD codes.The employees that do coding for reimbursement go through training but they don’t typically have a medical background.Therefore mistakes are made,both upcoding and down coding.
M & M also has approved lists of medications ,ivermectin is not on the approved list of medications.Protocals are also established under procedural codes that Drs.must follow for reimbursement so essentially what we have is “cookbook” medicine.
Drs.that accept M&M and hospitals aren’t allowed to deviate from protocols and approved lists of medications because Center for M&M monitors this closely.Deviations will trigger audits,invariably errors will be found ,errors where illnesses were up coded (in most cases) accidently.next thing the Dr, and hospital are being investigated for M&M fraud.
There is also accidental down coding but M&M doesn’t care about that.
Therefore Drs.and hospitals just go along to get along.
It’s the Golden Rule - he who has the gold makes the rules.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:05 am to Concerned Senior
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So you think your doctor will provide you with the honest truth, guess again!
Most Americans with decent critical thinking skills understood a few short months after the pandemic began that many doctors refused to follow the "real" science.
Many people were showing up at their PCP or emergency room with COVID-19 symptoms and were told to go home and contact us if you get to feeling bad. Terrible advice and in many cases that advice resulted in people becoming deathly ill. We knew within a couple of months after the pandemic really took off that early treatment was the key and there was good anecdotal evidence that certain medicines and nutritional supplements greatly lowered the chances of hospitalization and death but this anecdotal evidence was ignored by most physicians. Guess what? Many physicians are still giving the same advice knowing that some people are going to become sick enough to require hospitalization and some will die.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:17 am to GumboPot
quote:I met a doctor last night at a dinner party , whom I had never met before. A conversation began about covid. My wife quickly mentioned that I had recently purchased ivermectin(people pill not paste) and the doctor said “as you should”.
Or doctors can get back to practicing medicine again instead of being establishment drones.
The doctor admitted their hands are tied when it comes to what they can say and do regarding treating covid patients. This was a hospital doctor, not private practice dr.
The dr agreed that remdesiver(sp) is a disaster.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 11:22 am
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:20 am to Bass Tiger
Clarification of my post above.Insurance companies also use ICD codes for billing and they won’t pay for medications that aren’t on the approved list either.So it doesn’t really matter if one is on M&M.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:20 am to Concerned Senior
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while pushing AMA-approved “official” propaganda by claiming it’s all based on “facts,” not “science” or “medicine.”
I take this to mean that these “facts” could be true or they could be false. You can only be certain that it’s the company line
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:22 am to Oddibe
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I met a doctor last night at a dinner party , whom I had never met before. A conversation began about covid. My wife quickly mentioned that I had recently purchased ivermectin(people pill not paste) and the doctor said “as you should”.
The doctor admitted their hands are tied when it comes to what they can say and do regarding treating covid patients. This was a hospital doctor, not private practice dr.
The dr agreed that remdesiver(sp) is a disaster.
My doctor friends have said the same.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:56 am to Landmass
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Most doctors don't know shite about health. They get your symptoms and look them up in a book. They hand you a pill, if they can one that they get a kick back for from drug reps. They peddle drugs and that's all.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:16 pm to AndyJ
I present to you one of the many bad doctors.
Spoken like a true crap doctor. You can follow the links with a couple of clicks all the way to the source document on the ama site.
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Lol I’m a doctor, so I’m sure you don’t care about my opinion on this. But wtf was that nonsense link? Literally have no idea what it is even babbling about
Spoken like a true crap doctor. You can follow the links with a couple of clicks all the way to the source document on the ama site.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:19 pm to Concerned Senior
My issue with this lack of trust is that if people decide they don't trust anyone (politicians, doctors, experts in their field, etc.) then who is left. Do you just live in an echo chamber and not trust anyone except who agrees with you? I'm all for a healthy amount of skepticism but this seems ridiculous.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:43 pm to PentagonTiger
That’s one good thing about being in the medical field,you know which Drs.to trust.The overwhelming majority of hospital staff patronize a distinct minority of Drs.
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