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So XI Joe is banning private businesses
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:40 am
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If he can end private prisons which are owned and operated by private corporations, can't he abolish ice cream stands or restaurants and etc?
If he can end private prisons which are owned and operated by private corporations, can't he abolish ice cream stands or restaurants and etc?
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:41 am to LSUROXS
I am pro private prisons, but that analogy is really really dumb.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:42 am to LSUROXS
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If he can end private prisons which are owned and operated by private corporations, can't he abolish ice cream stands or restaurants and etc?
Because the prisons operate on federal contract.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:42 am to LSUROXS
Do you think it's a good thing that we have private prisons?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:42 am to LSUROXS
Private prisons are a bad idea until we go full anarcho-capitalist.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:43 am to Niamey Vice
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Private prisons are a bad idea
Of course they are
This is something we should actually be agreeing with Biden on
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:43 am to Powerman
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Do you think it's a good thing that we have private prisons?
Eh, they are typically run better and more efficiently than the government run counterparts... Other than there being private what is the big issue with them?
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:44 am to Ice Cream Sammich
quote:Seems like his analogy hit a little too
Ice Cream Sammich
Close to home for you.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:45 am to The Maj
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Other than there being private what is the big issue with them?
They're used as the scapegoat for high incarceration rates instead of looking at the culture(s) that breed criminality.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:45 am to The Maj
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Other than there being private what is the big issue with them?
You don't see a problem with having a profit incentive to keep as many people incarcerated as possible?
The prison industrial complex acts as a lobbying influence to keep more people in prison
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:46 am to LSUROXS
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Joe is banning private businesses by LSUROXS
He is a primary reason private prisons exist. Can't make this shite up.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:47 am to Powerman
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The prison industrial complex acts as a lobbying influence to keep more people in prison
What I take from this is that the lobbying industry is a much bigger problem than for profit prisons.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:47 am to The Maj
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Eh, they are typically run better and more efficiently than the government run counterparts...
We have one near where I live and the employees seem to be a cut above our area DOC employees.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:48 am to Niamey Vice
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What I take from this is that the lobbying industry is a much bigger problem than for profit prisons.
Of course
But as it pertains to this particular topic it is problematic
And a rip off to the tax payers. These private institutions don't contribute to the greater good of society. They detract from it.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:48 am to Powerman
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You don't see a problem with having a profit incentive to keep as many people incarcerated as possible?
That’s not in the top 10 drivers of incarceration rates.
I’m not excited about profit-driven prisons. But it’s not a great argument against them that profit is a big driver in incarceration rates.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:48 am to The Maj
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Eh, they are typically run better and more efficiently than the government run counterparts... Other than there being private what is the big issue with them?
I’ll try to summarize:
Our govt/politicians are run by campaign financing. In other parts of the world, they are rightly called bribes. Since private prisons became a thing in the 70’s, our prison population (in the land of the free) has increased 300%. We incarcerate more per capita than any place on the planet.
Because private prisons are run by corps, those corps pay politicians, who in turn make policy that benefit the corps, which in turn leads to mass incarceration.
Private prisons are a scourge on our society, and I HATE joe Biden, but I’ll defend his position on this with everything I have.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:48 am to Powerman
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Do you think it's a good thing that we have private prisons?
if they can operate ate a lower per inmate cost, then yes, private prisons are good
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:49 am to the808bass
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That’s not in the top 10 drivers of incarceration rates.
Do you have a top ten list you could share with us to back this up? It's not that I don't believe you. I'd just like to see some data.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:52 am to BamaCoaster
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Our govt/politicians are run by campaign financing. In other parts of the world, they are rightly called bribes. Since private prisons became a thing in the 70’s, our prison population (in the land of the free) has increased 300%. We incarcerate more per capita than any place on the planet.
Correlation doesn’t always equal causation. I’m not a fan of for profit prisons and wouldn’t mind seeing them go away but they are certainly not the biggest factor in out incarceration rate.
Posted on 4/30/21 at 8:52 am to Powerman
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You don't see a problem with having a profit incentive to keep as many people incarcerated as possible?
The private companies that run the prisons incarcerate people as provided to them by the State, and released as directed by the State.
Now, if State LEO/DOJ had financial incentives from the private prison company, that's a problem.
IIRC our VPOTUS had some issues concerning keeping people incarcerated longer than required by law, but I can expound on that topic.
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