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re: So who thinks we need a Muslim ban?

Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13349 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:25 pm to
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An additional 250million plus a year is better than $0 a year.


Really depends on what they do with it, doesn’t it?

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I’m Holding baptist responsible for their backwoods beliefs that are keeping this state dead last.


There are a lot of states with majority hardline religions that aren’t last. Attributing your state’s problems to salt of the earth types is pretty asinine, don’t you think?

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Like I said, Muslims killing each other on the other side of the globe DOES NOT AFFECT ME.


Yeah, we’ll that isn’t the only place it’s happening, or have you missed the news for the last 20 years?

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Their PERSONAL choice is their PERSONAL choice. The family can CHOOSE to cut that person off and kicking them out of their life, or they can CHOOSE to continue to put up with it.


Yeah, but that doesn’t get their kids fed, clothed, a roof over their head, or positive involvement in their lives by their parents, does it?

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Take their kids away. They shouldn’t have kids.



Guess who pays the bills for that? There goes your extra 250 million in tax revenue. Plus another 250 million for courts, and lawyers. Add another 250 million for additional police, jails, first responders, and probably another 250 million for free medical care.

Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:28 pm to


Care to refute what I claimed with more than "you don't know what you're talking about"


Define Taqiyya with historical context And I will. Also bonus points if you can define the same-concept in Judaism.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35094 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:28 pm to
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How so?

Draconian liquor laws, draconian marriage laws, draconian drug laws, etc etc etc etc etc etc.
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Someone anti-freedom would pursue ways to force their beliefs on others.

Via lockstep voting against more personal freedoms and less government regulation.

Soooo freedom loving.
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Free societies, to keep a certain level of social order, have to have some laws restricting certain things.

Absolutely. Things that have a tangible affect on others.

IE. Murder. Robbery. Assault.

Smoking weed on your couch doesn’t affect anyone else. Betting your money on a sport doesn’t affect anyone else. 2 gays getting married doesn’t affect anyone else.

All are things southern baptist are against and want to prohibit others from doing.

That. Is. Textbook. Anti. Freedom.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35094 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:31 pm to
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Really depends on what they do with it, doesn’t it?


Not at all. 250 million dollars is better than 0 dollars. Always. Forever.
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There are a lot of states with majority hardline religions that aren’t last. Attributing your state’s problems to salt of the earth types is pretty asinine, don’t you think?

The baptist in north Louisiana are directly responsible for a shite ton of problems. JBE for one, won his position because of the north Louisiana southern baptist.

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Yeah, we’ll that isn’t the only place it’s happening, or have you missed the news for the last 20 years?


Sugar has killed more people than Muslims in the last 20 years.

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Yeah, but that doesn’t get their kids fed, clothed, a roof over their head, or positive involvement in their lives by their parents, does it?


Not. My. Problem.

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Guess who pays the bills for that? There goes your extra 250 million in tax revenue. Plus another 250 million for courts, and lawyers. Add another 250 million for additional police, jails, first responders, and probably another 250 million for free medical care.


Or we can incentivize sterilization to help steer our poor away from having kids they can’t afford.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13349 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:36 pm to
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Do you know any Muslims .?


Irrelevant. Did you know any of the 9/11 terrorists? How about the muslims that shot up the nightclub in Florida? Did you know the muslims that bombed the marathon? How about the Muslim that opened fire at Ft. Hood? The muslim who shot up San Bernardino? How about the Muslim that shot up the recruiting office in Arkansas?

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Do you think first and second generation immigrants have assimilated less than Asian or Hispanic Americans?


The only way that is relevant is if there were Asians or Hispanics setting up regions where they are enforcing their owns set of laws, and denying Americans their rights under the Constitution. This is happening in Michigan, Minnesota, and New York at a minimum, right now.

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You ignorant frick please leave Arkansas or wherever you are from any interact with people from somewhere different than you. And i day this as the most diehard Reagan conservative.


You don’t know me. Don’t act like you do.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:47 pm to
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Irrelevant. Did you know any of the 9/11 terrorists? How about the muslims that shot up the nightclub in Florida? Did you know the muslims that bombed the marathon? How about the Muslim that opened fire at Ft. Hood? The muslim who shot up San Bernardino? How about the Muslim that shot up the recruiting office in Arkansas?


Do you? No? Me either. I do however know tons of doctors, lawyers ,shop owners, restaurant owners, students etc who are first and second generation who have assimilated and woven themselves into the tapestry of our great nation. Do you know any of these?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125419 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:57 pm to
Yet Saudi Arabia still isn’t on it
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13349 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:58 pm to
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Do you? No? Me either. I do however know tons of doctors, lawyers ,shop owners, restaurant owners, students etc who are first and second generation who have assimilated and woven themselves into the tapestry of our great nation. Do you know any of these?


And according to a 2011 Pew poll, up to 7% of those muslims believe that violence is justified in defense of Islam. So I would rather reduce the number of those people, than have that 7% expand. Sorry, not sorry.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35094 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:00 pm to
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up to 7%


Sooo... could be 7%

Could be 1%

Could be 0.00000001%

I remind you, sugar has killed far more people in the last 20 years than Muslims....
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64652 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:05 pm to
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Do you, personally, know any Muslims?

I know several, and they are peaceful people.
Don’t let extremists muddy your thoughts.



All these guys were peaceful people right up until they were in the air on the morning of September 11, 2001.

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13349 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:07 pm to
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Sooo... could be 7%

Could be 1%

Could be 0.00000001%

I remind you, sugar has killed far more people in the last 20 years than Muslims....


No, 7% responded that violence was sometimes justified in defense of islam in two different polls from 2007 and 2011.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35094 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:08 pm to
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No, 7% responded that violence was sometimes justified in defense of islam in two different polls from 2007 and 2011.


No, 7% means 7%

Up to 7% means the number is anywhere from 0.0% - 7%

And again, I remind you, sugar has killed more Americans than Muslims. Do you want to lick sugar out of America?
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 10:09 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13349 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:09 pm to
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I remind you, sugar has killed far more people in the last 20 years than Muslims....


It was dumb the first time. I was doing you a favor, and not commenting on it.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:12 pm to
Come on bro we’re thise assimilated Muslim Americans? I agree there is a problem with Islam but the overwhelming majority of American Muslims are great productive Americans. The kind of Americans we want as part of our society and our neighborhoods. Do you honestly not believe this ? I am a conservative and a huge trump supporter and these views just give credence to how the left and media portray us.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35094 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:14 pm to
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It was dumb the first time. I was doing you a favor, and not commenting on it.


Not at all. Your beef with Muslims seems to stem solely from the amount of deaths responsible by Muslims.

One could reasonably infer that the more deaths something causes, the more against it you would be.

Why aren’t you against sugar?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:14 pm to
I hope I’m not an outlier as a trump supporter. Maybe I’m naive and am. If so that’s pretty fricking sad and proves the lefts point.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13349 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:15 pm to
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No, 7% means 7%

Up to 7% means the number is anywhere from 0.0% - 7%
LINK

Look for yourself, dumbass. Would you rather have 7% of 100, or 7% of 100,000?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35094 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:16 pm to
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Look for yourself, dumbass.


So hostile for pointing out a technicality.

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Would you rather have 7% of 100, or 7% of 100,000?


Again. 7% = 7%

UP TO 7% means anywhere from 0.0-7%

Also, it’s 8%, not 7%. You didn’t add the 1% to the 7%
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 10:21 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13349 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:21 pm to
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Not at all. Your beef with Muslims seems to stem solely from the amount of deaths responsible by Muslims.


Even though I have repeatedly said that islam and sharia law are repugnant to the Constitution, the rule of law, and American values.

You know, there are also studies that show that how radical the Muslim population is, directly correlates to the percentage of muslims in any given population. Can you guess what that means?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35094 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:24 pm to
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Even though I have repeatedly said that islam and sharia law are repugnant to the Constitution, the rule of law, and American values.


Good thing where you nor I live, we don’t have to deal with this.

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You know, there are also studies that show that how radical the Muslim population is, directly correlates to the percentage of muslims in any given population. Can you guess what that means?


I find it funny that you think I don’t know this. Not once in this thread have I said Muslims are this peace loving peoples who don’t have an extremist problem. Quite the opposite actually. I said that Muslims are far and away the most radical and destructive religion worldwide.

However, where I live, and in my own life, Muslims are inconsequential. They have zero affect on my life. I don’t worry about them. I don’t wake up worrying about being on the receiving end of a suicide bomb or being kidnapped and forcefully converted.

The same goes for you. These are simply not issues that you have to worry about. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not in 50 years.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 10:25 pm
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