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re: So what, exactly, is the problem with real federal spending cuts?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Well since we no longer produce things, we need a steady stream of printed cash to keep all the lawyers, fund managers, doctors, bankers etc from all the right East coast families uber wealthy
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:01 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Well since we no longer produce things,
wut
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:01 pm to tide06
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False.
The lobbyists who control Congress are addicted to federal pork.
I wish it was that simple, but it's not. If you're looking for an easy solution to our exploding deficits, you're in for a big disappointment.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
It ain't happening SFP. No one has the courage to do it. No one.
The debt will hit $100 trillion before long, maybe 15 years from now, slightly longer?
It is all a ruse.
The ruling class is getting wealthy and holding political theater events for those that half way pay attention.
Complain all we want, nothing will happen.
The debt will hit $100 trillion before long, maybe 15 years from now, slightly longer?
It is all a ruse.
The ruling class is getting wealthy and holding political theater events for those that half way pay attention.
Complain all we want, nothing will happen.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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Trump has already accomplished more spending cuts than your stupid "libertarian" heroes will ever achieve in their careers.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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quote:Well since we no longer produce things, wut
Says the lawyer who has produced a tangible thing in his life.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:02 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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The debt will hit $100 trillion before long, maybe 15 years from now, slightly longer?
At this rate, I imagine sub-10
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:03 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Says the lawyer who has produced a tangible thing in his life.
We are the 2nd largest manufacturer in the world
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:03 pm to imjustafatkid
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Nothing. Enjoy never getting real spending cuts because you adhere to an all or nothing approach
Hey look it’s the Dems plan for the boarder bill
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
No one is getting reelected on cuts.
You don't get re elected by cutting Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security or Defense. Those and monies transferred to states are the only relevant parts of the budget. And the money sent to states isn't getting cut either.
The rest is pennies in the sofa.
Nothing will ever be cut. Congress doesn't even define cuts as real cuts. Congress exists to spend, not cut.
The debt trajectory will continue upward as it has for decades.
It will go one this way until something breaks or collapses and the answer will be to spend more, not cut.
You don't get re elected by cutting Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security or Defense. Those and monies transferred to states are the only relevant parts of the budget. And the money sent to states isn't getting cut either.
The rest is pennies in the sofa.
Nothing will ever be cut. Congress doesn't even define cuts as real cuts. Congress exists to spend, not cut.
The debt trajectory will continue upward as it has for decades.
It will go one this way until something breaks or collapses and the answer will be to spend more, not cut.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:05 pm to cascadia
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Hey look it’s the Dems plan for the boarder bill
Yes, we definitely should take a page from their playbook and start playing the long game. Our side continues to fail because we have people who insist on getting everything or nothing, which means they get nothing.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:05 pm to Tiger985
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Congress doesn't even define cuts as real cuts. Congress exists to spend, not cut.
The Presidency, too.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:06 pm to imjustafatkid
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because we have people who insist on getting everything or nothing, which means they get nothing.
Define "everything" in the context of our deficit
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:06 pm to imjustafatkid
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Our side continues to fail because we have people who insist on getting everything or nothing, which means they get nothing
So we should have allowed what was it, 5000 illegal aliens to cross a day because we need something to get done and wanting all or nothing isn’t feasible?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:08 pm to cascadia
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So we should have allowed what was it, 5000 illegal aliens to cross a day because we need something to get done and wanting all or nothing isn’t feasible?
This makes no sense. Trump has already fixed this problem.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
We may be at the point where failure to substantially reduce spending will bring real catastrophe.
Getting control of the budget is the right thing to do but doing this will get our leaders fired.
We have a system that punishes our representatives for doing the right thing
Getting control of the budget is the right thing to do but doing this will get our leaders fired.
We have a system that punishes our representatives for doing the right thing
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:09 pm to TrueTiger
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We may be at the point where failure to substantially reduce spending will bring real catastrophe.
Getting control of the budget is the right thing to do but doing this will get our leaders fired.
We have a system that punishes our representatives for doing the right thing
Yep, this is why it must be done over time if we're going to get anything done.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
Too many lawyers as politicians and not enough real World experience
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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At this rate, I imagine sub-10
At current rate, I believe we add over $3 trillion/yr, so 15 years or so is the projection.
Of course, new crisis's will be invented and they will just spend away.
Tell me, how do you think this will get resolved?
Complaining about any present member of Congress or Trump is futile.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:10 pm to imjustafatkid
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This makes no sense. Trump has already fixed this problem
This is exactly my point. Dems wanted to allow like 5000 a day. Turned out we needed a different president who got all and didn’t settle.
Now we have people saying “just sign this so we get some!” Essentially the equivalent of the dems saying “allow 5000 a day.”
No, just get all the cuts
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 1:11 pm
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