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re: SO, what exactly is the difference between Neville Chamberlain's leftist pacifist...

Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296381 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Where the hell have you been?


I doubt he's ever had a callus in his adult life, he ain't fighting anyone.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14968 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:49 pm to
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They are fighting a US proxy war. That is 100% evil.

Evil is pushing a war using bodies of others.


Those aren't objecting, in fact they are begging for our help.

"Helping a country defend themselves" is a weird definition of "evil."

Posted by DawgRebelinAL
Confederate States
Member since Feb 2022
524 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:52 pm to
You really can't condemn Chechnya and Donbas at the same time unless you just admit you hate Russia. Chechnya is Russia keeping that part of territory part of Russia. Donbas is about Ukraine keeping that part of territory Ukrainian---and Russia having a bit of a say so with regards to the ethnic Russians living there.

So either national territorial integrity is a Good thing or it is Bad thing. With you, it's fine and dandy if KEEEV does it and not much if Moscow.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
34934 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:55 pm to
frick Ukraine, Zelensky, their government, and everyone else who jacks off to them.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:56 pm to
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many right-winger's are looking to join the leftist Chamberlain on the bench of fool-hardy isolationism in the face of evil


elegant.

address the anti globalist issues of concern.
do a thread.

if you need to write with university level complexity and vocabulary all you will get is buffoonery back.

remember brer rabbit vs the tar baby. you fight fools, you will be banned in 30 days tops.
Posted by DawgRebelinAL
Confederate States
Member since Feb 2022
524 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:57 pm to
Anybody with a picture of Bill Buckley as their avatar has absolutely never settled a grown man problem with physical violence before and that is true.
Posted by afterburner82
Member since Jan 2023
55 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:07 pm to
Why did Britain and France declare war on Germany but not the Soviet Union despite the Soviet Union also invading and occupying Poland?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:18 pm to
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MichiganTiger


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Michigan


Are you allowed out of your house yet?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5922 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:22 pm to
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Korea in 1950 saved South Korea from communism.
Vietnam arguably resulted in no other Southeast Asian countries become communist.


I think he means positive impact for the avg American

Vietnam didn't want to become communist in the first place. French don't get let back in after WWII = no vietnam war

The North would not have overtaken the South in Korea and china didn't get involved until the US did

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Central and South America in the 1960s and 1970s and 1980s saved various countries from communism after the rise of Castro.


Yea instead most of those countries are run by a mixture of Authoritarian dictators and socialist dictators and their people risk their lives everyday to come to the US

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Liberated Kuwait in the 1990s

Cool and what did this accomplish?

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Defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan in the early 2000s.

Go to Afghanistan now and tell me the Taliban are defeated and the US spent billions there for the same end result as just going kill Bin ladin and getting out

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14968 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:37 pm to
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I think he means positive impact for the avg American
Well then what positive impact did our intervention in WWII have, using that standard?


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The North would not have overtaken the South in Korea and china didn't get involved until the US did
You know, except all the times they took Seoul. China didn't support them at first, but the USSR did.

And we didn't so much intervene as defend ourselves, since were there before the war started.

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Liberated Kuwait in the 1990s

Cool and what did this accomplish?


A liberated Kuwait.

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Defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan in the early 2000s.

Go to Afghanistan now and tell me the Taliban are defeated and the US spent billions there for the same end result as just going kill Bin ladin and getting out


A better analogy would be our opposition to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. That weakened Russian and lead the way to the fall of the USSR (among many factors).

I see a similar outcome in Ukraine as well.


Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:42 pm to
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Anybody with a picture of Bill Buckley as their avatar has absolutely never settled a grown man problem with physical violence before and that is true.
Thank you for the compliment. Children settle their interpersonal differences with violence. Adults do not.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:52 pm to
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You really can't condemn Chechnya and Donbas at the same time unless you just admit you hate Russia. Chechnya is Russia keeping that part of territory part of Russia. Donbas is about Ukraine keeping that part of territory Ukrainian---and Russia having a bit of a say so with regards to the ethnic Russians living there.

So either national territorial integrity is a Good thing or it is Bad thing. With you, it's fine and dandy if KEEEV does it and not much if Moscow
Your understanding of geopolitics is ... limited. Of course, I AM trying to reason with an adult man who thinks that differences should be resolved through a fistfight, so I am probably wasting my time trying to educate you.

Chechnya is a region in which approximately 1% of the population is ethnic Russian and more than 96% is ethnic Chechen. The 96% wish to separate from Russia.

By contrast, the ethnic Russians who want to separate the Donbass from Ukraine constitute only 38% of the population. (This assumes that they ALL want to separate, which is false). They were able to impose their will upon their neighbors only because Moscow was supplying them with "volunteer" troops and weapons (while Obama countered by supplying Ukraine with old blankets). At NO POINT has a majority of the population of Donbass wanted Russian annexation, sham elections held by the occupiers notwithstanding.

Crimea is a distinct issue, because the population THERE is INDEED ethnic Russian, by a LARGE majority. A free and fair referendum MIGHT have favored a change in status, but we will never know definitively because Russia violated international law, invaded and annexed.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14678 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:16 pm to
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Of course, I AM trying to reason with an adult man who thinks that differences should be resolved through a fistfight, so I am probably wasting my time trying to educate you.


If I may, you misunderstand yet again, because you are a gigantic twat. What he’s saying is you flap your lips, never having to invest any more in the issue than having an already thoroughly trashed reputation further tarnished on some message board. Meaning you probably wouldn’t be quite so glib and quick to condescend if you had to cash that check in teeth.

Put another way, these people want to back Ukraine to the hilt, as long as it means other people suffer, whether financially, or physically, once enough idiots are convinced we must send our kids to die there.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5922 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Well then what positive impact did our intervention in WWII have, using that standard?


It established the US as the World power
Made the dollar the reserve currency
Led to over a decade of economic boom that made the avg American more prosperous

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I see a similar outcome in Ukraine as well.


Lol - keep swallowing that propaganda
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Meaning you probably wouldn’t be quite so glib and quick to condescend if you had to cash that check in teeth.
if losing an argument, punch the other guy.

Another Neanderthal. No surprise there.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14678 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:28 pm to
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Another Neanderthal. No surprise there.


Thank you for making my point. You do understand, don’t you? See if you were standing in front of me when you said that, you’d be eating through a straw for a while, and probably would think twice before you made another comment like that to someone.

If Mike Pence, Joe Biden and the rest of our elected dumbasses had to send THEIR kids to Ukraine first should it become necessary, the saber rattling would be held to a minimum. See how that works?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14968 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 5:29 pm to
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If Mike Pence, Joe Biden and the rest of our elected dumbasses had to send THEIR kids to Ukraine first


To be fair, Biden had his kid in Ukraine earlier than anyone else!
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41778 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:20 pm to
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To be fair, Biden had his kid in Ukraine earlier than anyone else!


Lol
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:39 pm to
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You do understand, don’t you? See if you were standing in front of me when you said that, you’d be eating through a straw for a while, and probably would think twice before you made another comment like that to someone.
I have never said anything to you half as bad as the things you say about me, slick. You have earned every syllable.

And I REALLY doubt that you even-remotely have the capacity to make me “eat through a straw,” tough guy.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9044 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:44 pm to
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Vietnam arguably resulted in no other Southeast Asian countries become communist.

Laos and Cambodia certainly aren't known as a bastion of freedom.
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