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re: So we need 18 Democrats to vote no on impeachment for it to fail, right?

Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:21 am to
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4987 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:21 am to
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that Constitutional duty intervened


That is one of my favorite parts, one of their two impeachment articles charges the President with the crime of performing one of his Constitutionally prescribed obligations - obstructing the other two branches of the Federal Government.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:24 am to
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Nancy will loss the House after 2 years. Impressive


For a second time...
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11835 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:30 am to
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“I being working today”

Cool. Who you be working for?


Being is obviously an autocorrect for begin.

"I begin working today..."

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96967 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:44 am to
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Nancy will loss the House after 2 years. Impressive


For a second time...


It’s like her sole job was just to play spoiler. How do these a’holes sleep at night?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19985 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 5:30 am to
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I think even if one Democrat votes against it, it will be seen as a failure. If there was a compelling case to remove Trump, it would be bipartisan. But the only thing that's bipartisan is the opposition to impeachment.


Jeff Van Drew, dem from NJ met with Trump last night....and asked for a jacket...he is flipping to the republican party.

Talk about going Maga, thats astounding...and outstanding.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19985 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 5:34 am to
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Also, Pelosi determines committee appointment/placement and can make them so impotent along those lines that they barely have anything to go back home and tout in a reelection campaign. That's the quick and not-exactly-educated-on-the-issue version from me, but I do know that's a thing. The SOTH can defang members of her caucus and hurt 'em bad in doing so.



True Davy, but it might get them reelected and Nancy wont be speaker anyway then. How much longer can she last in office anyway.

The number 31 districts is mentioned many times. But Trump himself said, if a vote was taken today, it would be more than 31, a lot of close ones I would win now given the economy and other issues. Lots of nervous nellies.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63034 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 6:03 am to
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Nancy is nervous as a nun in a cucumber patch right now.



She has the votes.

She knows it's not popular...that's been the case since the beginning.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32081 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 6:45 am to
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18 Democrats to vote no

This won't happen. There will be at most 7 or 8 Democrats who will abstain, or vote "present" on articles of impeachment. Except for Van Drew who shifted alliances there will be nary a no vote.

A barometric indicator will be the votes of Lizzie Pannill Fletcher, Colin Allred and Lucy McBath. These three freshman Democrats represent mostly white, suburban districts in the South, and are in the "radical middle" politically. Each one has gesticulated support for articles of impeachment this week.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 7:10 am to
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there will be nary a no vote.

So for those vulnerable moderate Democrats whose constituents are unhappy, some outright angry, that this impeachment has moved forward, to the detriment of other business that the constituents expected their Reps to address a long time ago......when those constituents ask their Rep "What did you do to stop this impeachment circus so you all can get down to actual work?"....what will the Rep say??
Posted by LSU Alumnus
Member since Nov 2017
1831 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:14 am to
According to this prediction market, three to six is what to expect. I don't know if this factors in abstentions.

Also, it's always fun to read the comments on that site.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10721 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:49 am to
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It would be awesome to have it fail outright in the House.

You're right, but even if only a few Dems cross over it is a victory of sorts for the President.

It would indicate that Schiff and Nadler failed to make a convincing case even for those in their party.



Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10721 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:52 am to
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There will be at most 7 or 8 Democrats who will abstain, or vote "present"

The courageous stance perfected by barack obama. Now, there was a legislator with a backbone.

The more yea votes from vulnerable Dems the better IMO.

This post was edited on 12/15/19 at 9:52 am
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25450 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:56 am to
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I am in one of the 31 districts and when I called to express my displeasure with vote, I was told Lucy M will vote for impeachment. I told her office I being working today to be sure she is not reelected.


That's awesome. Spread the word around your district. These reps need to be aware of what they're constituents actually want.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 9:57 am to
Blind a Trump allegiance around here shows true IQ. Same morons beating their chests were posting “ROMNEY STACCKKKKKEEEDDDDD, OBAMA FUUCCCKKKEEEEEDDDD”. Clowns.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2503 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 10:19 am to
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It’s like her sole job was just to play spoiler. How do these a’holes sleep at night?


Their comfort depends on how much ill gotten cash that they have stuffed in their matresses and how evenly it is distributed.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 10:20 am to
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:08 am to
Trump livin' all up in your head, rent free.

What a baby-back-bitch you are
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
12315 posts
Posted on 12/15/19 at 1:12 pm to
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It's up to 6 dems voting against it



What is the source on this? I have only seen 2 publicly state their opposition. The same 2 who voted against the inquiry.
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