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re: So Ukraine is threatening the US at this point to get aid
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:46 pm to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:46 pm to RaoulDuke504
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US told them stop hitting oil referneries because it'll drive up oil prices
Here is the problem right here. If we want to dictate how they fight Russia, maybe we should pay them. I am for not paying them and letting them fight as they see fit.
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:57 pm to CaneyLake
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Now some of them want to sue us
They misunderstood security assurance for security guarantee when they gave up their nuclear weapons. That was a terrible mistake on their part.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:04 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Its you sick people that celebrate Russian and Ukrainian men dying to protect the money laundering operation of the child groomers YOU support
So if we would not have supplied Ukraine with money and arms(which Trump did as well) there would be no war?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:10 pm to scottydoesntknow
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you sick people that celebrate Russian and Ukrainian men dying
I don't celebrate anyone dying.
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...to protect the money laundering operation of the child groomers YOU support
You're unhinged.
Whatever happened to "national sovereignty" as a thing? Do you only apply that selectively?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:12 pm to RaoulDuke504
LOL. They are hitting oil refineries with missiles paid for by me.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:13 pm to RaoulDuke504
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Give us the damn Patriots.
How about no. They can't afford the number of missiles it would take to effectively use the system anyway.
And neither can we for that matter.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:18 pm to Indefatigable
quote:What is the percentage of possibilities that this whole thing is a leftist plot to significantly weaken the forces of the US and NATO by taking their time in order to use up strategic stockpiles of weapons, while Russia builds up theirs?
How about no. They can't afford the number of missiles it would take to effectively use the system anyway.
And neither can we for that matter.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:20 pm to RaoulDuke504
On one hand, Ukraine is really annoying in this regard in a way that probably sours everyone on their efforts.
On the other, Ukraine using our tendencies to leverage support needed for their war is understandable.
If the US wasn't so invested in control and influence, this argument would have no weight.
On the other, Ukraine using our tendencies to leverage support needed for their war is understandable.
If the US wasn't so invested in control and influence, this argument would have no weight.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:40 pm to HubbaBubba
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What is the percentage of possibilities that this whole thing is a leftist plot to significantly weaken the forces of the US and NATO by taking their time in order to use up strategic stockpiles of weapons, while Russia builds up theirs?
The NATO countries are retooling as fast as possible for a major war with Russia as we speak. The US has been providing the bulk of the arms. These were not strategic stock piles. For the most part we cleared our junk drawers and closets of arms and gave it to the Good Will essentially. Keeping up aid to Ukraine buys NATO more time to prepare and hopefully deter Putin from even thinking about challenging Article 5. If this is a leftist plot...its a dumb one.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:42 pm to Pettifogger
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f the US wasn't so invested in control and influence,
Should we be?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:45 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Should we be?
Every penny we offer comes with strings. I dont see how anyone could support feeding a war.
Its cowardly. We pay for influence, let other peoples young men die.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:46 pm to Pecker
Bleed is spelled with two e's.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Every penny we offer comes with strings. I dont see how anyone could support feeding a war.
Its cowardly. We pay for influence, let other peoples young men die.
So you would;ve opposed FDR's lend lease and cash and carry programs to British and French prior to us getting involved?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:54 pm to Pecker
Anyone notice something glaring?
Ukraine uses US Missiles and hit what they aim for.
Israel uses US Missiles and hits what they aim for.
Hamas, Houthiis, Hezzbollah, Syria, Iran launch hundreds of missiles and can't hit shite.
Iran needs better programmers.
Ukraine uses US Missiles and hit what they aim for.
Israel uses US Missiles and hits what they aim for.
Hamas, Houthiis, Hezzbollah, Syria, Iran launch hundreds of missiles and can't hit shite.
Iran needs better programmers.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:57 pm to bluedragon
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Ukraine uses US Missiles and hit what they aim for.
Its homegrown Ukrainian drones thats hitting the Russian oil refineries. What really glaring is how bad Russia's air defense is performing.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:57 pm to ThuperThumpin
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The NATO countries are retooling as fast as possible for a major war with Russia as we speak. The US has been providing the bulk of the arms. These were not strategic stock piles. For the most part we cleared our junk drawers and closets of arms and gave it to the Good Will essentially. Keeping up aid to Ukraine buys NATO more time to prepare and hopefully deter Putin from even thinking about challenging Article 5. If this is a leftist plot...its a dumb one.
Is that why the bill includes 23 billion to replenish the junk stock piles?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:59 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Its homegrown Ukrainian drones thats hitting the Russian oil refineries. What really glaring is how bad Russia's air defense is performing.
Drones are a problem for everyone and air defense aren’t equipped for small drones
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:18 pm to RaoulDuke504
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Drones are a problem for everyone
Depends on the drone.
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air defense are equipped for small drones
I assume you meant not....Russia's is especially not well equipped relative to the technology other nations have to detect them.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:34 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
quote:“bled” isn’t, you fricking retard
Bleed is spelled with two e's.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:38 pm to RaoulDuke504
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So Ukraine is threatening the US at this point to get blackmail payoff
FIFY
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