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So the 200K deaths model is using NYC as the baseline standard for the nation?

Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:29 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:29 am
Dr Brix said so and also said this was the "best-case scenario"

I get it that they have to take the worst-case scenario and model based on that so anything less is a win but NY has 6% of the population and 46% of all cases.

Does this information change your perception of the model?

Posted by TigahTeeth
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:31 am to
It mine. 100-200,000 is extremely outlandish in my opinion. Only 42-43,000 worldwide so far.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Dr Brix said so and also said this was the "best-case scenario"

I get it that they have to take the worst-case scenario and model based on that so anything less is a win but NY has 6% of the population and 46% of all cases.

Does this information change your perception of the model?

Using worst case scenario is the most irresponsible thing you could possibly do as an authority on any matter
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:33 am to
Found this on twitter

quote:

New York - 20 million people, 1714 deaths.
Michigan - 10 million people, 259 deaths.
California - 40 million people, 180 deaths.
Texas - 28 million people, 56 deaths.

WHY are models being based on New York?
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:34 am to
It tells me that high population density affects the chances of catching this, which means the northeast and large cities will be slammed but most medium and smaller areas will be significantly less at risk.


LA and Chicago not having outbreaks on the order of magnitude of NYC tells me that population density is a huge part of it because both cities have around as many people but have a driving culture and suburbs that NYC really doesn’t have to a degree (even suburbs in NJ and CT are pretty packed).
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:34 am to
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Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:34 am to
Do you have a link or did you JUST see him live?

ETE: Is he a her?
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 11:37 am
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:35 am to
NYC also has/had a huge number of International travelers.
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Using worst case scenario is the most irresponsible thing you could possibly do as an authority on any matter
'

That and planning in a vacuum - only looking at your particular piece of the puzzle are some of the worst things that can be done in any response AND it is readily being done here...
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:35 am to
quote:

the 200K deaths model is using NYC as the baseline standard for the nation? by stou


Yes

"Model only as good as the assumptions you put in them"
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:36 am to
I watched the press conference yesterday where she stated that.

NY and NJ are skewing the numbers by a large degree in the model.

Personally I think we should come in under, but I have been way too optimistic through all this.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:36 am to
quote:

LA and Chicago not having outbreaks on the order of magnitude of NYC tells me that population density is a huge part of it because both cities have around as many people but have a driving culture and suburbs that NYC really doesn’t have to a degree (even suburbs in NJ and CT are pretty packed).


Yea but some of the County's in NY with a high infection rate have the same population density as New Jersey. Suffolk, Orange, Nassau all are about the same.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:36 am to
Those idiots in nyc were still partying in the parks 9 days ago. Those that could, jumped in their cars and started spreading the virus around florida.

Of course 200k deaths will be possible with that kind of action.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 11:40 am
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:39 am to
So do LA, San Fran, Chicago, etc.

LA and San Fran are two of the bigger entry ports for Chinese, who are most likely to have come in contact with the virus.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:39 am to
NY defied the travel ban with China too.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:41 am to
Places that use public transportation at high rates are going to have a much larger infection and death rate than non-places.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Those idiots in nyc were still partying in the parks 9 days ago. Those that could, jumped in their cars and started spreading the virus around florida.



Galveston was jumping too.

dumbassery a plenty to go around.

Posted by Janky
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:45 am to
Here is how they stack up for 2019

1. NY 14,000,000
3. LA 7,725,000
6. SF 3,000,000
Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:47 am to
quote:

NY and NJ are skewing the numbers by a large degree in the model.

The totals won't be anywhere near 100000. They both admitted yesterday they were seeing anecdotal evidence that NY/NJ were starting to trend downward.
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:48 am to
I think 200k is likely, maybe more. Obviously, pop density plays a huge factor in transmission, but I also think there is a correlation to mortality as well.

For instance, Mississippi, sparsely populated, has around 1100 confirmed cases with only 22 deaths, so far. Mississippi is generally considered one of the worst states for healthcare accessibility and overall healthcare.

I think there are some overlays in play that are yet to be determined.

I also think by March 2021, you will be looking at 200k plus dead in the US. I’d venture to guess, though we’ll never know, that China ends up with well over 1M dead in that span.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 12:56 pm
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