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So the 200K deaths model is using NYC as the baseline standard for the nation?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:29 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:29 am
Dr Brix said so and also said this was the "best-case scenario"
I get it that they have to take the worst-case scenario and model based on that so anything less is a win but NY has 6% of the population and 46% of all cases.
Does this information change your perception of the model?
I get it that they have to take the worst-case scenario and model based on that so anything less is a win but NY has 6% of the population and 46% of all cases.
Does this information change your perception of the model?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:31 am to stout
It mine. 100-200,000 is extremely outlandish in my opinion. Only 42-43,000 worldwide so far.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:32 am to stout
quote:
Dr Brix said so and also said this was the "best-case scenario"
I get it that they have to take the worst-case scenario and model based on that so anything less is a win but NY has 6% of the population and 46% of all cases.
Does this information change your perception of the model?
Using worst case scenario is the most irresponsible thing you could possibly do as an authority on any matter
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:33 am to TigahTeeth
Found this on twitter
quote:
New York - 20 million people, 1714 deaths.
Michigan - 10 million people, 259 deaths.
California - 40 million people, 180 deaths.
Texas - 28 million people, 56 deaths.
WHY are models being based on New York?
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:34 am to stout
It tells me that high population density affects the chances of catching this, which means the northeast and large cities will be slammed but most medium and smaller areas will be significantly less at risk.
LA and Chicago not having outbreaks on the order of magnitude of NYC tells me that population density is a huge part of it because both cities have around as many people but have a driving culture and suburbs that NYC really doesn’t have to a degree (even suburbs in NJ and CT are pretty packed).
LA and Chicago not having outbreaks on the order of magnitude of NYC tells me that population density is a huge part of it because both cities have around as many people but have a driving culture and suburbs that NYC really doesn’t have to a degree (even suburbs in NJ and CT are pretty packed).
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:34 am to upgrayedd
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This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:34 am to stout
Do you have a link or did you JUST see him live?
ETE: Is he a her?
ETE: Is he a her?
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 11:37 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:35 am to teke184
NYC also has/had a huge number of International travelers.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:35 am to upgrayedd
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Using worst case scenario is the most irresponsible thing you could possibly do as an authority on any matter
That and planning in a vacuum - only looking at your particular piece of the puzzle are some of the worst things that can be done in any response AND it is readily being done here...
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:35 am to stout
quote:
the 200K deaths model is using NYC as the baseline standard for the nation? by stou
Yes
"Model only as good as the assumptions you put in them"
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:36 am to stout
I watched the press conference yesterday where she stated that.
NY and NJ are skewing the numbers by a large degree in the model.
Personally I think we should come in under, but I have been way too optimistic through all this.
NY and NJ are skewing the numbers by a large degree in the model.
Personally I think we should come in under, but I have been way too optimistic through all this.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:36 am to teke184
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LA and Chicago not having outbreaks on the order of magnitude of NYC tells me that population density is a huge part of it because both cities have around as many people but have a driving culture and suburbs that NYC really doesn’t have to a degree (even suburbs in NJ and CT are pretty packed).
Yea but some of the County's in NY with a high infection rate have the same population density as New Jersey. Suffolk, Orange, Nassau all are about the same.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:36 am to stout
Those idiots in nyc were still partying in the parks 9 days ago. Those that could, jumped in their cars and started spreading the virus around florida.
Of course 200k deaths will be possible with that kind of action.
Of course 200k deaths will be possible with that kind of action.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:39 am to Janky
So do LA, San Fran, Chicago, etc.
LA and San Fran are two of the bigger entry ports for Chinese, who are most likely to have come in contact with the virus.
LA and San Fran are two of the bigger entry ports for Chinese, who are most likely to have come in contact with the virus.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:39 am to Bulldogblitz
NY defied the travel ban with China too.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:41 am to stout
Places that use public transportation at high rates are going to have a much larger infection and death rate than non-places.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:41 am to Bulldogblitz
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Those idiots in nyc were still partying in the parks 9 days ago. Those that could, jumped in their cars and started spreading the virus around florida.
Galveston was jumping too.
dumbassery a plenty to go around.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:45 am to teke184
Here is how they stack up for 2019
1. NY 14,000,000
3. LA 7,725,000
6. SF 3,000,000
1. NY 14,000,000
3. LA 7,725,000
6. SF 3,000,000
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:47 am to DarthRebel
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NY and NJ are skewing the numbers by a large degree in the model.
The totals won't be anywhere near 100000. They both admitted yesterday they were seeing anecdotal evidence that NY/NJ were starting to trend downward.
Posted on 4/1/20 at 11:48 am to stout
I think 200k is likely, maybe more. Obviously, pop density plays a huge factor in transmission, but I also think there is a correlation to mortality as well.
For instance, Mississippi, sparsely populated, has around 1100 confirmed cases with only 22 deaths, so far. Mississippi is generally considered one of the worst states for healthcare accessibility and overall healthcare.
I think there are some overlays in play that are yet to be determined.
I also think by March 2021, you will be looking at 200k plus dead in the US. I’d venture to guess, though we’ll never know, that China ends up with well over 1M dead in that span.
For instance, Mississippi, sparsely populated, has around 1100 confirmed cases with only 22 deaths, so far. Mississippi is generally considered one of the worst states for healthcare accessibility and overall healthcare.
I think there are some overlays in play that are yet to be determined.
I also think by March 2021, you will be looking at 200k plus dead in the US. I’d venture to guess, though we’ll never know, that China ends up with well over 1M dead in that span.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 12:56 pm
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