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re: So That's Who Americans Will Blame for a Debt Default

Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19034 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:55 pm to
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Pay your bills, but also don't order so much.

The Democrats want appetizers, a huge meal, some expensive wine, dessert, and coffee afterwards. Republicans are trying to cut out the dessert and Dems are freaking out about it.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:57 pm to
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DC needs to be put on a budget, like most of the Citizens here ! STOP the money laundering in Ukraine, STOP giving illegal aliens crossing the border thousands of dollars, and cut the Federal Agencies back to vital personnel only ! Every Federal Agency we have, which is WAY too many, could cut their personnel by half and still be efficient. Cut the free handouts and force people able to work to do so.


Ron? Is that you?
Posted by Barbarosa
Bawcomville
Member since May 2023
83 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:02 pm to
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The Democrats want appetizers, a huge meal, some expensive wine, dessert, and coffee afterwards. Republicans are trying to cut out the dessert and Dems are freaking out about it.



I agree. It's not just the dessert though. We need to be ordering a salad not the appetizer, filet, tons of sides,and then yes the dessert too.

DeSantis appears to be for this. Trump talked the talk going into his presidency but the debt kept going up year over year under him.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19034 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Trump talked the talk going into his presidency but the debt kept going up year over year under him.

He was good on tax cuts, trade, immigration, and keeping us out of wars. Not so much when it came to spending.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23178 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:12 pm to
MAGA will get blamed.....we get blamed for everything!
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68957 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:15 pm to
Schmuck Schumer blamed the "MAGA Supreme Court" for the 9-0 ruling against the EPA earlier today.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35797 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:19 pm to
So let it default...you really want to see that???

OK.

Then don't bitch when it affects you. Because it will
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4712 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:36 pm to
That’s a poll. Wait until a week or so after the histrionics on social media and regular media. They will all blame Rs
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 7:37 pm
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30615 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:01 pm to
What if less-than-gruntled recipients of Medicare, Social Security and veterans' benefits take to the streets, following just one missed scheduled payment after default?

McCarthy and House Republicans' illy-timed quixotism will smell to high heaven publicly, and any Republican presidential candidate can kiss 2024 goodbye.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100294 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:09 pm to
We need a balanced budget amendment to constitution that requires a balanced budget and states taxes can never top 40% and limits spending to a certain percentage of GDP except during wartime. And such wartime must be a declared war by Congress not a military action ordered by the President
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68957 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:14 pm to
What are your thoughts on the 14th amendment argument posed by Biden? Does it require him to ensure the legitimacy of public debts? Is invoking the 14th risking consideration of the argument that Biden could be impeached if the US defaults on its debt obligations? Laurence Tribe's argument seems to leave that door open.

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Professor and constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe argues that it is not a matter of Presidential power but Presidential duty—to enforce already legislated laws and payments—that obligates the President, when confronting two incompatible mandates (the 14th amendment versus the debt ceiling created by Second Liberty Bond Act of 1917), to choose that which is not only in keeping with his Constitutional duty to execute laws Congress has passed that have created debt but also in mind of the pragmatic consequences to the security and well-being of the United States.
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
24659 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:17 pm to
Personally, I blame all of those assholes. Both parties ran up this debt and spent beyond their means. It was just as wrong to raise the debt limit when Trump was in office as it is now.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47931 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:18 pm to
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The federal government is a deadbeat by its nature. It produces nothing, generates revenue by taking it from those who do produce, and always, always, always spends more of your money than they can take from you at any given time. Then it pays its excess bills by taking out loans in perpetuity, and then more loans to pay that debt. At some point soon the interest on loans will exceed tax revenue. It already exceeds what we spend on defense.

there are way way way too many logical paths there.

Your average Democrat voter can only follow logic like - "promise me everything I want and make someone else pay for it" and then "I will vote for you."

If you go beyond that, you are - by definition (their definition)- attacking democraty
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92318 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:55 pm to
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Just 27 percent said the debt ceiling should be lifted without additional requirements


These people are too dumb to tie their shoes let alone vote.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7882 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:20 pm to
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is against raising the debt was also against cutting social security and Medicare


I get cutting medicare but the government literally stole our social security money. (we needed the dang lockbox)..
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