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So now leftists wants to eliminate the right to an atty

Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:33 pm
Quote from the NYT EDITORIAL:

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The American Bar Association should signal that anyone who defends the border patrol’s mistreatment of children will not be considered a member in good standing of the legal profession nyti.ms/2IZh1Z4


New York Times Tweet

This scares the absolute frick out of me that now these leftists want to decide who is entitled to legal representation.

Harvard (or was it Yale?) fired a tenured professor bc he chose to represent Harvey Weinstein. That pervo is a dirtbag, but even he has a right to any attorney.

They started with the 2nd, then they moved on to the 4th and 5th with this FISA shite, then they moved on to the 6th.

These people have to be stopped. Decisively.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:34 pm to
We should start applying this to their constituents
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
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Wednesday
100% agreement.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:36 pm to
They’re all Stalinists and always have been, they’re just getting brave enough to come out in the open now that they 100% wholly own the media.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:43 pm to
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American Bar Association should signal that anyone who defends the border patrol’s mistreatment of children will not be considered a member in good standing of the legal profession



The ABA doesn’t get to decide who is in good standing or who has license to practice.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:44 pm to
Only in a deranged clown world does following the law equal "the border patrol’s mistreatment of children".

frick these lawyers and the useful idiots who fall for this propaganda.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:45 pm to
Mmcgrath and libertarian freedom patriot Juiceterry are fapping furiously to this
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:49 pm to
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So now leftists wants to eliminate the right to an atty
A single person, who has experience with attrocities worlwide, is making an argument against defending the mistreatment of children. NOT against a right to an attorney.

Or do you think that a lawyer is truthful when saying "safe and sanitary" conditions for children include no regard to sleep or hygiene?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:50 pm to
Beefense5 still thinks that Les Miles' offense was perfect.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:51 pm to
No he is not.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:54 pm to
If you don't agree with them, they want you dead. Of course, they're not going to want you to have an attorney.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15410 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:55 pm to
I realize this, but it’s more of these leftists resorting to methods like Doxing, and social media banning and coercing private businesses to police their political agenda.

The ABA is just as much an arm of the Democrat Party as the NYT And Twitter is. Do you think the average person who isn’t an atty would understand that an atty who is censured or banned or whatever by the ABA is a good attorney.

This attitude is pervasive among the left. The entire FISA scandal resulted from Obama/HRC/DNC delegating it’s unconstitutional behavior to private individuals or foreigners and saying- well, it’s ok bc it’s not “state action.”

Every leftist on this board responds the same way when massive communication industries from tv to internet, bans or blacklists conservatives.

This is a dangerous, slippery slope. And the fact that the NYT thinks it’s “progress” to make defendants in criminal or civil matters have no practical access to counsel bc it’s just not “nice” to represent that kind of accused person, to me is horrid, fascist and unamerican.

These people have GOT to be stopped
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:55 pm to
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The ABA doesn’t get to decide who is in good standing or who has license to practice.

Lol exactly. States license attorneys...ABA has no say over a single thing, ever. The extent of their authority is "model rules" which states tend to adopt. Just lol. That tweeter dude is king clown in clown world this day.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15410 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:58 pm to
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Or do you think that a lawyer is truthful when saying "safe and sanitary" conditions for children include no regard to sleep or hygiene?


I’ve spent a career representing people accused of bad shite. Sometimes they did it. And sometimes they didn’t.

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I hope you never get sued or arrested, or else you may have to petition the editorial board at the NYT in order to find someone who they deign appropriate to represent you, or whether you are worthy of representation.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:58 pm to
ABA's basically a club. No enforcement or disciplinary power whatsoever. That and licensure resides with state bar associations.

Wait, you're an atty? What gives? I must have misread your post.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61265 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

This scares the absolute frick out of me that now these leftists want to decide who is entitled to legal representation.

Harvard (or was it Yale?) fired a tenured professor bc he chose to represent Harvey Weinstein. That pervo is a dirtbag, but even he has a right to any attorney.

They started with the 2nd, then they moved on to the 4th and 5th with this FISA shite, then they moved on to the 6th.

These people have to be stopped. Decisively.
I have made this point many, many times. We now have an entire generation of people living in America who have NO CLUE what it means to be an American
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14827 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

The American Bar Association should signal that anyone who defends the border patrol’s mistreatment of children will not be considered a member in good standing of the legal profession nyti.ms/2IZh1Z4


So, let me get this straight nyt.

Pedophilia? That's ok.

Murder a kid? God bless them.

Kidnap a child and hold for Ransom? Evidently no problem with that.

Anyone else abuse anyone? Hell, we would love to defend you.

Be a cop and diddle a kid? We would line up to defend you.

Be a cop and abuse a citizen? Not a problem.

Be a border patrol and rape a citizen? We got this.

Border patrol rape and murder 20 women, illegal and citizens? Heck we need to defend them.

Border patrol gets out of line and punches a 16 year old child?

frick him. He's in his own.

The stupidity of that line is just baffling. There fricking reverence that the left is granting to these illegal immigrant children is frankly stunning.

Of all the things to say someone should not be granted an attorney for, I have to say that is pretty far down the line of crimes. I mean seriously.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 3:06 pm to
And, ANOTHER example of the reality that the left is totalitarian.

I mean honestly. Anyone pretending otherwise at this point is just a lying sack of shite in on the goal of being totalitarian.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

These people have to be stopped. Decisively.


I've got bad news.

In all of human history, once people like this have achieved a certain quorum in society, they have NEVER been defeated without being shot at.

I'm all ears for examples to the contrary.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15410 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 3:10 pm to
Yes. The ABA is basically a club, with no authority to regulate attys.

But nothing stops them from telling the General Public- davyjones is a scum bag not worthy of membership in the ABA. And that’s how leftists do shite. It’s sort of like the Southern Poverty Law Center’s “list” they keep of “hate” groups (with amorphous standards defined by them), and they use it to defame their political opponents.

Leftists think you should have access to your rights if you believe what they do, but you should be excommunicated from participating in polite
society if you have a different viewpoint.

Plus promoting the idea that ANYONE isn’t entitled to a lawyer is basically inimical to the idea of the ABA, and the Legal Profession in general.
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