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re: So let me get this straight...

Posted on 9/29/19 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 10:31 pm to
Chris Wallace: “The president has the State Department. He’s got the CIA. He’s got the Pentagon. He’s got a number of other agencies. Why did he use three private lawyers to get information on Biden from the Ukrainian government rather than go through all of the agencies of his government?”
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 10:36 pm to
Rudy addressed this in his interview with Stephy

Check it out.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 10:38 pm to
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Chris Wallace: “The president has the State Department. He’s got the CIA. He’s got the Pentagon. He’s got a number of other agencies. Why did he use three private lawyers to get information on Biden from the Ukrainian government rather than go through all of the agencies of his government?”


That quote tells all you need to know about what is going on. Unfortunately for Chris Wallace, he is looking at it from the wrong perspective.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 10:41 pm to
Read the piece you obtuse piece of shite.

You are such a child, hiding out for a day then jumping back in this thread so you can "have the last word".


These affidavits and court filings are all out there. You've got a second hand, anonymous complaint riddled with errors and inaccuracies. Where is your sky high bar for evidence when it comes to that, you shill?
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 10:43 pm
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 10:55 pm to
This thread absolutely amazes me.

I’m don’t know that Shokin wasn’t corrupt.
I don’t know that Biden wasn’t correct in trying to get the guy fired.
I don’t know that Trump didn’t act inappropriately. He probably did.

But I do know that people in this thread are furiously F5ing to defend Hunter Biden and he’s a bigger piece of shite than Trump could ever dream of being. That’s hilarious. People are legitimately trying to look up and act educated about the goings on of a 3rd world prosecutor to defend Hunter Biden.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 11:45 pm to
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Biden and he’s a bigger piece of shite than Trump could ever dream of being


How many contractors does Biden owe?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 11:54 pm to

Apparently

It's acceptable for DC politicians to be corrupt and scam a bunch of money.

There wasn't even a peep made about the Clinton foundation, when she was selling her position.

Them going after trump, his family and friends ..trying to get them for any little thing.
Is only because he refused to kneel down and submit to the permanent government assholes. Imo.

This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 11:55 pm
Posted by texridder
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:23 am to
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You are such a child, hiding out for a day then jumping back in this thread so you can "have the last word". 

How is it you think I wanted to have the last word by asking you a question? Duh.
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These affidavits and court filings are all out there. 

Let me ask you- what was the date of the meeting of the prosecutor that Solomon had transcribed.

And who transcribed it.

And why did it need to be transcribed? Why couldn't we see the original and have Google transcribe it.

If you think that is an official document- as Solomon refers to it- you're not too bright.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:30 am to
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Let me ask you- what was the date of the meeting of the prosecutor that Solomon had transcribed.

And who transcribed it.

And why did it need to be transcribed? Why couldn't we see the original and have Google transcribe it.

If you think that is an official document- as Solomon refers to it- you're not too bright.


So you have yourself convinced that a bunch of official foreign documents and court filings that predate the breaking of this fake scandal have all been doctored and faked, but the WB complaint filled with inaccuracies and based on rumors and debunked news reports doesn’t require that same level of insane scrutiny?

We can just remove a sitting President with heresay, but we can’t so much as investigate a former VP with sound probable cause because some slowcoach liberal somewhere (that’s you, btw) will never accept the evidence brought against him, no matter how robust?

So basically what you’re saying is that you belong in a mental institution. We already knew that.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 8:43 am to
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A former vice-president sets up his son to make millions of dollars and prevents a foreign country from investigating him yet someone who wants him investigated gets impeached?
Nailed it.

Another question... why isn’t the FBI spying on Biden’s campaign like they did Trumps? Clearly there’s WAY more evidence (including a public self-confession) of foreign influence.
Posted by texridder
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:08 am to
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but the WB complaint filled with inaccuracies and based on rumors and debunked news reports doesn’t require that same level of insane scrutiny?
You know that, in the end, the complaint itself means nothing. All of that will have to be proved or nothing will happen.
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but we can’t so much as investigate a former VP with sound probable cause because some slowcoach liberal somewhere (that’s you, btw) will never accept the evidence brought against him, no matter how robust?
I haven't seen all of the stuff Solomon has posted, but what I have seen is useless.

The translated meeting of the prosecutor is ridiculous.

It isn't even dated. It doesn't say what prosecutor it is. It doesn't say who transcribed it. IF it was official, the person who transcribed it would have verified the document that it came from and that the translation was accurate. And if Solomon wants anyone with a brain to take him seriously, he needs to produce the original of the document.

Shokin was in the prosecutor's office when Britain's Serious Fraud Office seized $23 million of Zlochevsky/Burisma's funds in 2014, suspecting it was involved in money laundering.

In the end, the British had to release the funds in 2015, which Zlochevsky immediately moved to Cyprus. The Serious Fraud Office says they were forced to release the funds because the Ukrainian prosecutor's office didn't provide documents needed in the investigation.

What makes you think Shokin was prosecuting Zlochevsky?

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:36 am to
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You know that, in the end, the complaint itself means nothing. All of that will have to be proved or nothing will happen


It means everything. It’s the sole instrument being used to justify the impeachment of our president. You suddenly want to diminish the importance being assigned to this complaint so you get to be persnickety with documents Solomon and Giuliani have obtained. Life doesn’t work that way, champ.

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useless


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ridiculous


Moar opinions. As usual, you are not debating in good faith.


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The translated meeting of the prosecutor is ridiculous.

It isn't even dated. It doesn't say what prosecutor it is. It doesn't say who transcribed it. IF it was official, the person who transcribed it would have verified the document that it came from and that the translation was accurate. And if Solomon wants anyone with a brain to take him seriously, he needs to produce the original of the document.

Shokin was in the prosecutor's office when Britain's Serious Fraud Office seized $23 million of Zlochevsky/Burisma's funds in 2014, suspecting it was involved in money laundering.

In the end, the British had to release the funds in 2015, which Zlochevsky immediately moved to Cyprus. The Serious Fraud Office says they were forced to release the funds because the Ukrainian prosecutor's office didn't provide documents needed in the investigation.

What makes you think Shokin was prosecuting Zlochevsky?


Has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. Nothing. Painting Shokin as corrupt or trying to pick apart one document does nothing to delegitimize the reams of documents that have been unearthed. The bottom line is; there is substantial probable cause to investigate Biden’s affairs in the Ukraine. This isn’t debatable. You don’t get to sick 6 federal agencies on Trump based on cheap and preposterous campaign smear, then suddenly become a wonk when reviewing a mountain of paper implicating Biden. So gfy.
Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:56 am to
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Has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. Nothing. Painting Shokin as corrupt or trying to pick apart one document does nothing to delegitimize the reams of documents that have been unearthed

I picked one document and you didn't respond to anything I commented on regarding that document.

WHY IS THAT? Where's all this good faith you are talking about?

Also, where is a link to the reams of documents that have been unearthed. I hear talk about them on here, but only a few have actually been linked to that I have seen. How about a link?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:17 pm to
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WHY IS THAT?


I told you why, moron. Raising dumb questions and hypotheticals about one document amounts to nothing in the debate as to whether there’s grounds to investigate Biden. Many questions were raised about the WB complaint- that didn’t stop you from blindly accepting it. You’ve been here arguing with everyone about this for nearly a week now.

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Also, where is a link to the reams of documents that have been unearthed.


Do your own research, you lazy shite. Some are available, some were reported on, some got shaken in George Stephanopoulus’s face Sunday morning. You can’t even offer me a name of the president’s accuser that aims to remove him from office. Now it’s being reported that they mislead the ICIG, yet you expect me to provide you with hard hard links to court docs so you can tell me whether you believe they are sufficient to investigate Biden? lol, gfy. We all already know you won’t accept them. They are being subpoenaed by Schiff now, so I’m certain they’ll soon be leaked to the nearest WaPo reporter. You can burn through 20 pages melting about them then.

This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:50 pm to
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We all already know you won’t accept them
You wanted me to accept that bullshite translation from an undated meeting of an unidentified prosecuted.

You're not smart enough to even know what questions to ask.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:54 pm to
So many posts to not read.

So many down votes to hand out.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46066 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:56 am to
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You wanted me to accept that bullshite WB complaint from an second or third hand account of an unidentified whistleblower.

You're not smart enough to even know what questions to ask.


Swidt, cockroach?
But that's not even the best part. As you twist your little brain to discredit one piece of hard evidence against Joe, dozens more are out there.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:47 am to
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Biden isn’t president. Dems are more than willing to give up Biden to hurt trump.


By any means necessary?

You people are pathetic
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