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re: So, has our military war-gamed the use of fighter jets against domestic citizens?

Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:28 pm to
Yep. If they attack the general public they’d lose all the enlisted whose family’s would be being attacked. Again I don’t doubt high level officers plan this and would dream/try but there’s no way they could accomplish any attack across our whole country trying to identify targets. It’s hard enough in an actual theatre dealing with this in small sectors then having to deal with logistics and upkeep. We don’t even have loose ROEs in combat
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted by BuckI
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:31 pm to
The Air Force scrimmages by using objects but not people which is only a wreckless rumor.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:16 pm to
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I don't remember the source, but I thought there was a wargame in which the military had to be used against American citizens and the results were so catastrophic that they hoped it would never happen.

"Former Red Team Planner" copypasta
Posted by tonydtigr
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:26 pm to
Ya'll been thinking those stadium flyovers are all for show?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:32 pm to
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Ya'll been thinking those stadium flyovers are all for show?


They count as training hours so that pilots can remain current.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:21 pm to
Without question

Probably yearly and projected out past our lifetime on how to adjust.

It’s easier than we can possibly imagine for them to put us in a huge bind at the jump off because they can control supply, electricity etc.

Not to mention we go indoors when told

This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:23 pm to
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So, has our military war-gamed the use of fighter jets against domestic citizens?

Biden's complete idiocy aside, I would be surprised if there was a single possible scenario that the Pentagon doesn't have a binder for in a cabinet somewhere.
Posted by ticklechain
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:23 pm to
Gotta park them somewhere
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:27 pm to
Just point a bunch of laser pointers at them.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:27 pm to
That's the 5% that the other 95% of us dont like and that 5 % are pencil pushers.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:31 pm to
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They count as training hours so that pilots can remain current.


Well, that flew right over your head.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Moving onto imaginary victim scenarios?


Hey, the guy you voted President said it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:44 pm to
They can war game all they like, till the cows come home, but it’s going to prove very difficult to contain all of the videos of the US Military laying down ordinance on US Citizens, and the untold number of innocent citizen lives that would obviously result from that.


These people freak out about Gaza. Just imagine how freaked out everyone would be with American citizens losing their lives by the hundreds or thousands each and every day at the hands of the military they funded and who supposedly serve the people of these states?

NOW, imagine after all is said and done, regardless of the outcome, these same service men get out of the military and go back home and have to face their families and friends.


Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 8:48 pm to
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American citizens losing their lives by the hundreds or thousands each and every day at the hands of the military they funded and who supposedly serve the people of these states


This gave me a shiver, and not in a good way.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:53 pm to
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They can war game all they like, till the cows come home, but it’s going to prove very difficult to contain all of the videos of the US Military laying down ordinance on US Citizens, and the untold number of innocent citizen lives that would obviously result from that.

These people freak out about Gaza. Just imagine how freaked out everyone would be with American citizens losing their lives by the hundreds or thousands each and every day at the hands of the military they funded and who supposedly serve the people of these states?

NOW, imagine after all is said and done, regardless of the outcome, these same service men get out of the military and go back home and have to face their families and friends.


By “war gaming” domestic actions, I would hope ALL OF THIS would be part of the equation being considered, no?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:54 pm to
No doubt. That's why Joe keeps bringing it up
Posted by SloppyFrog
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:13 pm to
I'm not worried about f15s. I am worried about autonomous drones that will carry out any order it is told.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:18 pm to
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I'm not worried about f15s. I am worried about autonomous drones that will carry out any order it is told.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/12/24 at 4:12 am to
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Very likely, but those pilots are also domestic citizens. It's all well and good for the brass to LARP that they are "quelling dissention" (or whatever), it's a whole other thing to expect the grunts in the field, air and water to obediently declare war on their friends, family and neighbors.


Did you not pay attention during Covid?

Police were literally arresting people out in the ocean alone. Arresting pastors at church. Ripping citizens out of fast food restaurants who refused to wear a mask etc. They will side with who is paying them. This idea that police or military will turn on who is paying them isn’t based in any reality all the Covid tyranny showed us this. You will have to fight these people. Good luck.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2757 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 6:51 am to
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I know some military folks and I've been told that they would follow orders from the president to the letter, no questions asked. 


I was a paratrooper 30+ years ago. We were pretty good about following orders. An order to harm Americans in American soil may have resulted in the order giver being shot.

There is an obligation to follow all "LAWFUL" orders. Those clearly would be unlawful.

Also, the fact that Biden even has this opinion shows me he isn't a student of history at all.

Let's imagine for a moment that every cop, military member, fireman and anyone else in an official capacity decided to "occupy" the US. They would still be outnumbered 5000:1.

I'm not sure what military folks you know but they are the exception instead of the rule.
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