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re: Snopes makes Pravda look good..re Trump mugging

Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:40 pm to
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And that is enough to prove the case


To be fair I think it would take more than an unnamed source to prove this case. In court at least.

Do you at least agree that ‘unproven’ isn’t some communist liberal agenda and probably fairly neutral to call the whole interaction regardless of what happened 3 decades ago
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 2:41 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:41 pm to
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Because again, how can one witness and Trump be identically wrong? How is it remotely possible to be wrong with the same exact version of events? That is a statistical impossibility in this case.

My point exactly. The witness has the EXACT same account as Trump.

That corroborating witness is unidentified.

The named witness contradicts Trump's testimony but otherwise has a lot of facts describing the scene.

Ero, the corroborating witness is likely a figment of Trump's imagination.

Or, even more likely, the corroborating witness with the EXACT same story is the lime driver.

You have to ask yourself, why wasn't the limo driver interviewed as a witness.

Maybe he was, but they didn't want to say it was the limo driver because they know everyone would say he would say anything Trump told him to.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:00 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:05 pm to
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You're embarrassing yourself trying to prop up Trump as a vigilante hero. He literally admits that he's scared at the sight of blood.

You have fallen for John Barron's fake news once again


Right, the guy who's suggesting this was a fabricated conspiracy is telling someone they're embarrassing themselves.

Fail more, loser. LOL
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:08 pm to
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y point exactly. The witness has the EXACT same account as Trump.

That corroborating witness is unidentified.

The named witness contradicts Trump's testimony but otherwise has a lot of facts describing the scene.

Ero, the corroborating witness is likely a figment of Trump's imagination.

Or, even more likely, the corroborating witness with the EXACT same story is the lime driver.

You have to ask yourself, why wasn't the limo driver interviewed as a witness.

Maybe he was, but they didn't want to say it was the limo driver because they know everyone would say he would say anything Trump told him to.

LOL, you are literally just pulling baseless assumptions out of your arse to make your argument.

James Rosen interviewed the witness. For the witness to not be independent, Rosen would have to be in on this whole thing, making it a complex conspiracy.

ROFL, good luck with that. Just stupid.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:09 pm to
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how can one witness and Trump be identically wrong? How is it remotely possible to be wrong with the same exact version of events?

There is another possibility.

The New York Daily News was the paper that Trump used to call and identify himself as John Trump, disguise his voice, and give them press releases about himself.

Maybe that's where the witness with the EXACT SAME STORY as Trump came from.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
35356 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:46 pm to
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I call retard's, retard's when I see them.

You are purposely avoiding acknowledging that Trump and a witness matching statements exactly is enough proof that they have the correct version of events, which means the Snopes "unproven" claim can't be correct.

You're acting like one of the witnesses wanting to keep his name out of the paper means he's illegitimate or something.


You're a sad, little man and I pity you.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:02 pm to
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There is another possibility.

The New York Daily News was the paper that Trump used to call and identify himself as John Trump, disguise his voice, and give them press releases about himself.

Maybe that's where the witness with the EXACT SAME STORY as Trump came from.


Not only that, but if this incident was even remotely based in reality, @real would have been bragging about it for the last 27 years. I'm not aware he's done that. Instead, he's regaled Howard Stern with stories like that time the 80 y/o fell and broke his face in front of him at Mar-A-Lago, which caused him to turn away in disgust at the blood messing up his marble floor. As he told Howard, he didn't even call the man the next day.

At best, @real stopped his limo on the edge of a sheltering crowd and yelled at a man with a bat, not a gun, a bat, from a safe distance. I wouldn't play that up, either, yet the @realists are trying to pass the turd off as a superhero. Well, here's an on-point comic for them:

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:23 pm to
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“A lot of people were surprised that he got out to see what was happening,” Romeo said, adding that the bat-wielder ran off just before Trump actually appeared, and that Trump, “just looked around and went back into his limo.”


Trump would never have jumped out of his limo in the first place if the bat-wielder had already left the scene.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:31 pm to
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There is another possibility.

The New York Daily News was the paper that Trump used to call and identify himself as John Trump, disguise his voice, and give them press releases about himself.

Maybe that's where the witness with the EXACT SAME STORY as Trump came from.

LOL, look at the mental gymnastics you have to jump through to make an argument.

Your Trump Derangement Syndrome disease has consumed your dumbshit brain. LMFAO
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:33 pm to
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James Rosen interviewed the witness. For the witness to not be independent, Rosen would have to be in on this whole thing, making it a complex conspiracy.

Why didn't he interview the limo driver?

Why does the witness have the EXACT SAME STORY as Trump?
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:35 pm to
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You're a sad, little man and I pity you.

This from the idiot who has purposely avoided admitting a statistical impossibility exists.

Your credibility and opinion are shite.

Get owned more, retard.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:36 pm to
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LOL, look at the mental gymnastics you have to jump through to make an argument. Your Trump Derangement Syndrome disease has consumed your dumb shite brain. LMFAO

Did you forget to address what I said?

At least you are consistent.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:39 pm to
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Why didn't he interview the limo driver?
How the frick do I know? Maybe he wasn’t available because he’s busy working?

quote:

Why does the witness have the EXACT SAME STORY as Trump?
Because maybe... check this out... just maybe... it’s the truth and he told Rosen exactly what he saw happen?????

You fricking moron. LOL
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Not only that, but if this incident was even remotely based in reality, @real would have been bragging about it for the last 27 years.

True.

The first thing that jumped out at me was Trump saying "I'm surprised you found out about this." "I didn't want to play this up."

This from a guy who used to call this same newspaper, disguise his voice, and give fake press releases.

That has 0.01% chance of being true and his whole story collapses from there.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:46 pm to
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Why didn't he interview the limo driver?

quote:

How the frick do I know? Maybe he wasn’t available because he’s busy working?

The limo driver worked for Trump.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:46 pm to
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Did you forget to address what I said?
You are literally pulling completely made up baseless accusations out of thin air.

And, they defy logic.

You’re so fricking retarded you can’t even grasp the concept that Trump and the witness have the same exact chronology, context, and syntax (of part of a sentence) because they are simply recollecting exactly what actually happened.

Your Trump Derangement Syndrome has you believing the only possibility is Trump and the witness conspired to coordinate the same story. LOL

You are so blinded by hate and butthurt you can’t even conceive the possibility that two independent people are just recollecting the actual facts.

SMH
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59340 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:50 pm to
I mean....what is the argument about? Whether the guy had taken off or not when Trump exited the vehicle? I think the relevant point is trump thought there was a dangerous situation and he inserted himself into it. It doesn't matter the timing of the mugger leaving. That is irrelevant.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:50 pm to
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The limo driver worked for Trump.

And that helps Rosen’s credibility.

Your crybaby arse would be calling him biased if he used one of Trump’s freaking employees to help corroborate a story like this. LOL
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:50 pm to
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You are so blinded by hate and butthurt you can’t even conceive the possibility that two independent people are just recollecting the actual facts.

How about the part where Trump said "I'm surprised you found out about this." "I didn't want to play this up."

This from the same Trump who used to call this same newspaper, disguise his voice, and give fake press releases.
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