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Smaller Populated States Deserve Less Representation

Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3092 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:52 pm
On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” Sen. Alex Padilla (D-CA) said that the fact that there are four senators representing North and South Dakota but only two representing California “should change, on a number of fronts.”

Host Bill Maher asked, “[T]here [are] four senators from the Dakota territory that represent about two-and-a-half million people, and you represent — one guy represents 20 million. That’s got to change, right?”

Padilla responded, “It should change, on a number of fronts. It’s why things — why not more things get done through the Senate. But let’s go back to the Electoral College, right? That’s not one person, one vote.”

He added, “It’s one of those long-lasting things that needs to be corrected. Go back to the founding of our nation and how imperfect it was, from the original sin in the Electoral College. We’ve made a lot of progress on a number of things, but representative democracy, still needs some work.”

Padilla also stated that California’s state policies eventually spread to the national level, “sometimes, despite the imperfect — again, Electoral College, U.S. Senate, filibuster, etc. That needs to go, that there’s an opportunity to leverage the size of our state, right?”

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Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26641 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:54 pm to
Jeebus! What a political and historical ignoramus.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:54 pm to
The Senate by its very creation is not, “supposed to get things done”

Our Republic is under assault
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:55 pm to
Dear god. This country would not exist in its current form, but for the compromise of equal representation of the state’s in the senate, and population based representation in the house.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98855 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:55 pm to
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the original sin in the Electoral College


frick that a-hole.

The whole point of the original structure of the Constitution was to prevent the very domination of such "superstates" over smaller states.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21319 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:57 pm to
The whole point of two houses is to give small states like that power from being steamrolled by California’s 53 representatives in the house. Christ. It’s like that way for a reason.

And one of the huge reasons at the founding of the country was so slave states didn’t crush smaller states like Rhode Island and Vermont.


ETA: one thing that legitimately terrifies me is californians having even more of an influence over me 2000 miles away.

What does California want done nationally that they don’t already have in place in their state? Why do they have to drag the rest of us along. Their economy is strong enough isn’t it?
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:57 pm to
Democrats seem confused by the purpose of the Senate, and why the small colonies even signed up to be part of the US next to their larger, more populated colonies.

Had something to do with some form of compromise... with one part of Congress - I think it was the Senate - representing each of the colonies equally, not according to population.

Likewise, the electoral college is all that prevents California and New York and a couple of other states from deciding every Presidential election.

Sounds like Bill wants mob rule, not a representative republic.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5244 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:02 pm to
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Padilla also stated that California’s state policies eventually spread to the national level


Yeah bc those policies are working sooo well
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123942 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” Sen. Alex Padilla (D-CA) said that the fact that there are four senators representing North and South Dakota but only two representing California “should change, on a number of fronts.”
All that need be done is to divide the state three ways. Voila! Six Senators.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22800 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:06 pm to
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Democrats seem confused by the purpose of the Senate


I guarantee they are not confused. They know exactly what they want and it is total control.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7598 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:06 pm to
I bet Alex loves him some gerrymandering that insures minority populations are represented though
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:07 pm to
Senators are not supposed to represent the populace. They represent in Washington the concerns of the various state governments.

The house of representatives is supposed to be who speaks for the people.

How many representatives does California have versus the number north and south Dakota have?
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 9:10 pm
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:09 pm to
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Host Bill Maher asked, “[T]here [are] four senators from the Dakota territory that represent about two-and-a-half million people, and you represent — one guy represents 20 million. That’s got to change, right?”


Dakota is a state. In fact, two states now.

Two states = 4 Senators. Been that way for quite some time, Bill.

The Senators weren't designed to represent X number of people. They were designed to represent the individual state's interests.

The House was designed to represent X number of people, and it is indeed the House that should be expanded.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14006 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:10 pm to
Don't be comin' in here with yer fancy civics learnin' an shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:11 pm to
Progs are desperately trying to build their voting bloc and will do anything to make that happen.

Conservatives are too fat and happy, and will allow it to happen.
Posted by Tigerhalen
Member since May 2020
980 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:28 pm to
And that kind of thinking is why we should break up. They want totalitarianism.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37638 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:43 pm to
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Jeebus! What a political and historical ignoramus.



Amazing that some of these people hold elective office.

Scary part is they are serious
Posted by UTMaverick
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2021
555 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:48 pm to
Weird that Vermont or Delaware never gets mentioned in these conversations.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:49 pm to
A US senator that couldn’t pass a 9th grade civics class.
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