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re: Sky News: Zelensky Refuses to Sign "Problematic" Mineral Deal with US
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:00 pm to dupergreenie
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:00 pm to dupergreenie
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When you are bent over a barrel you don’t get to decide who goes first…..
Youre justifying going back in time and revising "deals" while applying force as something other than pure thuggery, which is ridiculous.
You act like this is a WWE match.
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:02 pm to John Barron
Trump needs to order a 30-day withdrawal of all military personnel, assets, technical and intel support for Ukraine. Stop all funding and any type of help. See how long it takes little Z to cave, or get overrun by Russia.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:04 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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They could take him out at any time. Why have they not done this?
And make him into a martyr?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre justifying going back in time and revising "deals" while applying force as something other than pure thuggery, which is ridiculous.
Trump wants a return on the stupid amount of money/resources we have sent over. Zelensky has no leverage in this. Zelensky is acting like the United States should just not be repaid. frick that little midget. I pray he gets raped on national television and executed.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:06 pm to John Barron
He didn’t have a problem taking the $$
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:08 pm to dupergreenie
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Trump wants a return on the stupid amount of money/resources we have sent over
How far back do we go with this? Or does this only apply to Ukraine?
Youre saying deals made in the past (both sides agreeing to terms) can be later changed at the whim of the Orange self proclaimed King so we can send American corporations abroad to mine minerals?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:09 pm to LSUROXS
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He didn’t have a problem taking the $$
Of course he didn’t. Now he doesn’t want to repay the loan. He should have no say so in this deal. Just agree to the terms or we should hand him over to Russia.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:13 pm to dupergreenie
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Of course he didn’t. Now he doesn’t want to repay the loan. He should have no say so in this deal. Just agree to the terms or we should hand him over to Russia.
Maybe that has something to do with the terms up the loan NEVER being that they pay us back 2-3x the loan amount? (Which is what trumps deals are asking for)
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Or does this only apply to Ukraine?
Since this is a thread about Ukraine I figure it was obvious that the discussion was about Ukraine and Ukraine alone. This isn’t a thread about any other conflict.
We currently have resources (money and military) in Ukraine. There is ZERO chance that Ukraine can win. He had no problem taking our resources but now he has a problem with paying it back. I don’t think we should have sent anything to them in the first place but we did. I don’t think it’s to far fetched to want to be paid back especially with interest especially in this case.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:16 pm to dupergreenie
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We currently have resources (money and military) in Ukraine.
Which were agreed up on by both sides at the time, correct?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:18 pm to aero1126
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Maybe that has something to do with the terms up the loan NEVER being that they pay us back 2-3x the loan amount? (Which is what trumps deals are asking for)
The loan (money and military aid) was given by the old regime. There is anew regime in office. Either go by the terms or get fricked (literally) by Russia.
I’m to the point where I just want Trump to wash his hands of the deal and let Zelensky get murdered by Putin.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Which were agreed up on by both sides at the time, correct?
Lol the dude who freaks out over Covid spending but not giving 300bil to Ukraine. Keep going rog
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Which were agreed up on by both sides at the time, correct?
Kind of like how we agreed that NATO would never encroach on Russia's borders?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:25 pm to aero1126
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Maybe that has something to do with the terms up the loan NEVER being that they pay us back 2-3x the loan amount?
DOGE demands that an attempt be made to recover or no further help should be given.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:27 pm to shinerfan
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Kind of like how we agreed that NATO would never encroach on Russia's borders?
Except that was never agreed to as confirmed by Gorbachev (USSR leader). And NATO is already on the borders now with Finland, so you guys need to drop this ridiculous argument.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:29 pm to Gus007
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amount? DOGE demands that an attempt be made to recover or no further help should be given.
That’s the beauty of it, the deals don’t offer any additional help regardless. The deal offered to Zelenskyy is “pay us 500B and get no further help” or “don’t sign, pay us nothing, and get no further help”.
Of course Zelenskyy is going to say frick off.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:44 pm to John Barron
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:52 pm to BozemanTiger
I really hate any deal that puts US troops as a buffer between Europe and Russia for Ukraine's potential "Rare Earth Elements" (REE).
Anyone paying attention to rare earth elements in the financial news over the past several years has seen some of these stocks go crazy and many, ultimately lose money. In addition, the US government does not seem to be working to heavily with the US universities to better increase our knowledge of extraction methods of rare earth minerals.
On the surface the, potential mineral rights for REE seems like BS. I don't like us even offering this deal to be honest.
Anyone paying attention to rare earth elements in the financial news over the past several years has seen some of these stocks go crazy and many, ultimately lose money. In addition, the US government does not seem to be working to heavily with the US universities to better increase our knowledge of extraction methods of rare earth minerals.
On the surface the, potential mineral rights for REE seems like BS. I don't like us even offering this deal to be honest.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:54 pm to John Barron
Zelensky is fricking himself, plain and simple. Trump is going to fold him like a lawn chair. He's just prolonging the inevitable.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:54 pm to civilag08
The king does not care about honoring alliances, or our troops. He cares about lining his own porcine pockets.
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