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re: Since it turns out Donald Trump was right about everything
Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:18 pm to Boomdaddy65201
Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:18 pm to Boomdaddy65201
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If they would have followed their own party bylaws for their last 2 Democratic caucuses they would have needed to nominate the fricking Communist whom is Bernie Sanders.
Excellent point!
But Bernie got two houses and a corvette out of the deal.
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:26 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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Are you intentionally oblivious to all the fraud or do you just not care? We know of massive fraud in swing states, with evidence
To be honest/ I’m not convinced of the election fraud - at all.
Do i believe that bamboo paper was used in Alz? No! It’s an ignorant conspiracy at base and logically impossible to pull off.
Do i believe election fraud happened in Georgia? Listen, fraud happens in every election, i worked 4 years as a PIO for an election office here in Florida.. i know what I’m talking about. One thing i am equally as certain- each ballot cast is attested and secure- once that ballot hit our hands, it was secure. Once an election is secure, the results are pure.
I trust the Georgia process, that election was recounted 3 times and it’s results never wavered - that’s a tight election. The results might not have been the way Trump wanted but this L is on him and not fraud.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:43 pm to 850SaintsGator
You’ve got to first settle up on the most relevant “definition” of “election fraud” as it pertains to this particular situation. Does And because the allegations were leveled by Trump, then you must get straight on that definition of “election fraud” as he intended it.
Most people do get caught up in the most provocative category of “fraud” that was tossed about, i.e. manipulation of voting machines, late night vote dumps, etc, but that’s not the only category nor probably even the most important. Trump also meant the (alleged) instances of unconstitutional and illegal and improper revisions of state voting laws and regulations in the name of covid. This allowed for much looser scrutiny of ballot signatures, the cut off times in which to accept those ballots, etc. It is within this category that the election was heavily weighted toward Biden on unconstitutional and illegal bases.
Trump used the term “election fraud” to cover quite a bit of actions.
Most people do get caught up in the most provocative category of “fraud” that was tossed about, i.e. manipulation of voting machines, late night vote dumps, etc, but that’s not the only category nor probably even the most important. Trump also meant the (alleged) instances of unconstitutional and illegal and improper revisions of state voting laws and regulations in the name of covid. This allowed for much looser scrutiny of ballot signatures, the cut off times in which to accept those ballots, etc. It is within this category that the election was heavily weighted toward Biden on unconstitutional and illegal bases.
Trump used the term “election fraud” to cover quite a bit of actions.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:45 pm to Froman
Listen to those crickets after several posters asked you to show your work. You little fraud.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 5:53 pm to TigerCoon
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it turns out Donald Trump was right about everything
Remember all of that talk about "The Resistance" after Trump was elected? There never was a "The Resistance." "The Resistance" was actually the establishment. The real "Resistance" was Trump himself.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 6:04 pm to 850SaintsGator
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1) false narrative that Trump was right about everything- he thought Putin was a genius and the lead up to the invasion was savvy….Putin is neither- he is bully and will be remembered for this embarrassment
2) Trump called a SOS to “find” 12k votes- that’s the foundation of election fraud right there….you can’t find 12k votes that aren’t there
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Lying involves concentric circles always getting wider and farther from center. It goes like this:
Dems: There was no voter fraud in primaries.
Proof says you're wrong.
Dems: OK, but we quit cheating in the general.
Proof will say you're wrong.
Dems: OK, but we won't ever cheat again.
And there you have it, case in point. These bidentards will say bloody anything to get out of their lies. Usually its a different and bigger lie.
Saints gator, I hope you get arse covid and drive into the river tonight. You are at the center of our nation's problems right now.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:00 pm to 850SaintsGator
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when he said that both groups of ppl in Charlottesville had fine people
People who wanted to keep the statues and people who wanted to tear them down. Yes, there are good people in both groups. He even explicitly condemned white supremacists in that statement.
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Yeah, he was asking the SOS to commit fraud
No. DJT believes there was fraud and was asking the SoS to find the fraud.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:01 pm to 850SaintsGator
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he thought Putin was a genius and the lead up to the invasion was savvy….Putin is neither- he is bully and will be remembered for this embarrassment
Historically bad people will be remembered for bad shite they do. No shite. It doesn't mean they can't be smart.
Why must most villains be labeled as one dimensional? There absolutely cannot be anything positive about them.
Even the a-hole leader from ISIS got a flattering obituary from the Washington Post.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:06 pm to davyjones
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You’ve got to first settle up on the most relevant “definition” of “election fraud” as it pertains to this particular situation. Does And because the allegations were leveled by Trump, then you must get straight on that definition of “election fraud” as he intended it.
Most people do get caught up in the most provocative category of “fraud” that was tossed about, i.e. manipulation of voting machines, late night vote dumps, etc, but that’s not the only category nor probably even the most important. Trump also meant the (alleged) instances of unconstitutional and illegal and improper revisions of state voting laws and regulations in the name of covid. This allowed for much looser scrutiny of ballot signatures, the cut off times in which to accept those ballots, etc. It is within this category that the election was heavily weighted toward Biden on unconstitutional and illegal bases.
Trump used the term “election fraud” to cover quite a bit of actions.
Thanks for the thoughtful response - rare air indeed sometimes
I can accept the nuisances of Trump’s speech vernacular- i spoke about this earlier- he has a weird word salad thing- yeah, ppl love the loose intelligent format but he gives VOLUMES of space to be interpreted wrong because of his lack of self control in using the correct word.
Unconstitutional- i work in policy here in Florida (more around it now but at times, helped author legislation etc) - one of my bosses would say- nothing is unconstitutional until it’s ruled unconstitutional by a court - so i get the frustrations at what Pennysylvania courts did in extending vote by mail laws but apparently- thus far, they were correct.
And honestly, courts making laws from the bench is annoying, Judge Walker does this shite all the time over here- the legislature always comes back and tightens up his loopholes - so far though, SCOTUS hasn’t stopped them so idk
Signatures-
Dude, I’ll be honest - it’s ridiculously hard to fraud a signature- inside familia units, it’s easier but still we caught a mom who signed her daughters ballot and the mom kinda knew her daughters signature. As a fun experiment, ask different office mates to try to duplicate the other office mates sig and ….compare the fake to the fraud.
I’ve verified 1,000s of sigs ….there are generally 3 points of similarities to each ones
It’s pretty hard to fraud sigs especially at the level needed to flip elections
Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:24 pm to 850SaintsGator
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I can accept the nuisances of Trump’s speech vernacular- i spoke about this earlier- he has a weird word salad thing
You got the quotes wrong, though. He specifically denounced the white supremacists. He was talking about good people being on both sides of the statue debate. That was painfully obvious to anyone who actually heard the speech. You should read the transcript.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 7:30 pm to 850SaintsGator
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Dude, I’ll be honest - it’s ridiculously hard to fraud a signature- inside familia units, it’s easier but still we caught a mom who signed her daughters ballot and the mom kinda knew her daughters signature. As a fun experiment, ask different office mates to try to duplicate the other office mates sig and ….compare the fake to the fraud.
I’ve verified 1,000s of sigs ….there are generally 3 points of similarities to each ones
It’s pretty hard to fraud sigs especially at the level needed to flip elections
Verifying signatures is easy, I'll give you that. But darn dude, you have to look at the them to verify. There is absolutely no way all those dumped ballots were verified. No way. But I guarantee you they were counted. Yessirree.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:04 pm to papasmurf1269
Why was Trump saying months before the election that the only way we can lose is fraud, when he was losing in almost every poll - some by double digits?
Why, if the ballots were switched from Trump to Biden did vast numbers of Republicans win on the same ballots?
Why was almost every single challenge thrown out of court despite a majority of Republican judges in appeals courts, many appointed by Trump?
I think, deep inside, you know there was no major fraud in this election. Trump, as I said, was planting that seed months before the election. He didnt even get more popular vote than Hilary in the 2016 election.
Just remember 75% of everything he says is a lie.
Why, if the ballots were switched from Trump to Biden did vast numbers of Republicans win on the same ballots?
Why was almost every single challenge thrown out of court despite a majority of Republican judges in appeals courts, many appointed by Trump?
I think, deep inside, you know there was no major fraud in this election. Trump, as I said, was planting that seed months before the election. He didnt even get more popular vote than Hilary in the 2016 election.
Just remember 75% of everything he says is a lie.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:15 pm to 850SaintsGator
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1) false narrative that Trump was right about everything- he thought Putin was a genius and the lead up to the invasion was savvy….Putin is neither- he is bully and will be remembered for this embarrassment
2) Trump called a SOS to “find” 12k votes- that’s the foundation of election fraud right there….you can’t find 12k votes that aren’t there
1) He called the move genius, not Putin.
2) Georgia was probably the "dirtiest" in this blatantly crooked election. But the true fraud was committed before the election even started with the illegal & unconstitutional changes in state election laws. It's that simple.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:11 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I really want to know if ANY national DEM has a moral conscience.
You know as well as I do that their program weeds out weak people with things like conscience and morals at the city level, long before they get to the state or federal level. It's very effective.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:15 pm to 850SaintsGator
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Let’s both be real here, neither of us are ever sure on what Trump actually meant when he says things…he speaks in weird elementary streams of consciousness word salad- like when he said that both groups of ppl in Charlottesville had fine people in both groups???? What the frick? Fine people in tge FUVKin racist groups??? Huh? ..see, weird speak
I don't remember seeing you post in pol before, but congratulations! It's still early in the year, but you seem to have won the 2022 "I'm so fricking stupid it hurts" award.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:27 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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The DNC openly committed vote fraud in the primaries.
People have forgotten but they admitted to stealing California from Bernie and giving it to Clinton in 2016
Posted on 3/20/22 at 6:56 am to papasmurf1269
Never was in my mind, but your point is valid.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:04 am to 850SaintsGator
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To be honest/ I’m not convinced of the election fraud - at all.
You are a liar. You have seen the drop boxes being stuffed. The video is readily available. You have seen the video of the a-hole collecting hundreds of ballets and bragging about it.
You have seen the ballots being pulled out from underneath a table after poll workers were sent home.
Add 1000 more example that you have seen or know about.
Nobody is so stupid as to think the lie you just made that you are not convinced of election fraud. And we are not stupid enough to believe that you aren't lying when you say you are not convinced.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:08 am to udtiger
It was obvious to me and probably a great many of us on election night, especially as the hour grew later, that there were very nefarious things going on. Even before Trump began his callout of same in earnest. Lots of folks on the other side of the thing like to dumb it down and assert that it was only after Trump started in hot that everyone dropped what they were doing, listened up and followed suit. That wasn’t the case. Most of us had already formed our opinions and suspicions before Trump started in on it.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 7:10 am to 850SaintsGator
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Listen, fraud happens in every election, i worked 4 years as a PIO for an election office here in Florida.. i know what I’m talking about.
OK. Fraud every election, got it.
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One thing i am equally as certain- each ballot cast is attested and secure- once that ballot hit our hands, it was secure. Once an election is secure, the results are pure.
Pure what? Pure fraud? You let people vote who should not, but because the ballot made it into your hands, it's Pure?
Nah, it's an illegal vote and you intentionally accepted it.
Please post your name, we need you to pay for your part in election fraud.
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