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re: SHUT IT DOWN!! No more $ for Ukraine

Posted on 9/30/23 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6351 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 2:52 pm to
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Russia is defending itself against new world order nato. Can’t blame them at all



Usually when one is defending itself it does not invade other countries
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173411 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 2:55 pm to
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The overwhelming majority of Republicans don't support money to Ukraine. I can't speak to Democrat sentiment.



Republicans are less than 50% of the population

I'd guess public sentiment is probably about 60/40 in favor of us supporting Ukraine in at least some capacity

Even among the republicans that think we've done too much and shouldn't do more very few would have been against funding for humanitarian aid only
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59275 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 2:59 pm to
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frick Ukraine, Hail Putin!


What a simplistic conclusion
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59275 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 3:02 pm to
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Usually when one is defending itself it does not invade other countries


How many countries has the USA invaded without being invaded itself? How many countries has the us funded to help them invade?

I’m not supporting Russias invasion, but your comment is silly.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6351 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 3:08 pm to
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How many countries has the USA invaded without being invaded itself? How many countries has the us funded to help them invade? I’m not supporting Russias invasion, but your comment is silly.



Whether the US invades a country or not is not at issue here. What’s at issue is this poster saying that Russia is fighting a defensive war
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31517 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 3:23 pm to
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So their tactic to do this is to invade a neighboring nation that isn't in NATO but is surrounded by NATO nations that might be sympathetic to their cause?

Doesn't sound like a brilliant strategy. It sounds like Putin is letting Russia commit suicide.



And to top it off it was counter productive if NATO is what Putin is worried about. Within a month or two of the invasion two of his Nordic neighbors decided to join NATO to help protect themselves from what's seen as Russian aggression.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17443 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:13 pm to
The republicans don’t have the courage or the character to stop voting yes.

They are weak.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6343 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:19 pm to
We wouldn't be talking about this war if Obama didn't setup a puppet govt in Ukraine and press for NATO entrance. That decision has cost us billions in war support, and resulted in war with many casualties.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:19 pm to
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when one is defending itself it does not invade other countries


quote:

Whether the US invades a country or not is not at issue here.


lol awesome

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:42 pm to
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Jails people who he finds a threat. Steals hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars


Attempts to jail political opponents? Steals millions?

Wait?! Are we discussing Putin or Biden?






Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 6:45 pm to
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Whether the US invades a country or not is not at issue here.


Only for a brainwashed tool.



This post was edited on 9/30/23 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Why in the world would funding to Ukraine stop? Think about it. How was it going to Ukraine a month ago? What has changed? Nothing.


Why in the world would we stop paying our own military and DOD while we fund Ukraine’s?

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the DOD stated they have the moneu for Ukraine in an account or setup that osnt affected by the shutdown...


Can we put the money for our OWN military in that same kind of account so that our service members can continue to be paid during a shutdown? Why can we pay a military on the other side of the world while we tell our own “sorry, our hands are tied”?

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 7:34 pm to
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Why in the world would we stop paying our own military and DOD while we fund Ukraine’s?



I'm just telling you how it is. I don't actually control US funding. Ukraine will get paid no matter what.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90349 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 8:09 pm to
No shite

Who has funding stopped with a shutdown?

Not Ukraine.

My kid has received emails from USAA offering to cover for any military members with low interest loans.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16362 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 8:10 pm to
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2/20: $500 Million
2/23 $10 Billion
2/24: $2 Billion
3/3 $400 Million
3/20 $350 Million
4/04 $2.6 Billion
4/19 $325 Million
5/08 $1.2 Billion
5/18 $3 Billion
5/19 $375 Million
5/19 $40 Billion
5/31 $300 Million
6/09 $2.1 Billion
6/13 $325 Million
6/16 $205 Million
6/20 $6.2 Billion
6/26 $500 Million
7/07 $800 Million
7/18 $1.3 Billion
7/21 $400 Million
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25905 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 8:13 pm to
Those first three payments could have locked down the southern border where an actual invasion of this country is taking place. Democrats are enemies of the state
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 8:46 pm to
I’m not blaming you personally, I’m pointing out the absurdity that we can put Ukraine on autopay yet somehow cannot do the same thing for our own military.

We can.

They choose not to.

They’re fine with some E-3 missing his truck payment and not being able to buy his kids new shoes. But Zelenskyy? Absolutely not, not one billion shall be late!
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 9:07 pm to
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quote:
Russia is defending itself against new world order nato. Can’t blame them at all


Usually when one is defending itself it does not invade other countries



Preemptive Strike
noun

1. An attack launched as a defensive measure.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 9/30/23 at 9:10 pm to
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Rumors are the Ukraine got left out of the stop gap. Maybe it isn’t nonsense.



When was Ukraine ever in the budget? Ukraine is still gonna get paid. You realize that, right?
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