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Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:44 am to
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7828 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:44 am to
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Would still have to have a conviction in the Senate, right? Would never get the votes


I am so sick and tired of hearing this yes it is entirely likely that he will not be convicted but he will be impeached and he will have to have a trial and he will have to explain a number of his ruling and his role in FISA and it will be covered and that should be enough to discredit him and it will take him off a number of cases that he is currently handling
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19021 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:45 am to
It is just grandstanding to start the message of resistance and impeachment for midterms.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22216 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:48 am to
Believe me as Trump would say. You can bet there is grousing in the CIA, FBI, military and wherever else. They've brought their complaints and whistleblower sh*it to the politicians and the instructions given by the politicians confer cover so the seditious can sedition. Probably with impunity.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41749 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:49 am to
It’s a hell of a campaign to not so subtly push for insurrection. Can’t help but notice the exact same format that Hollywood put out with all their actors asking the electoral college to not do their duty in 2017.

And then again during Covid and so-called anti-racism campaigns.

Whether the exact same people involved or not, they all are from the same flock.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56577 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:51 am to
Who has called for them to disobey orders
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22216 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:52 am to
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It is just grandstanding to start the message of resistance and impeachment for midterms.


What organized message do the republicans have to counter it? It better be good and catchy for the youths.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8886 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:53 am to
Continued crap from the liars and thieves of the Democrats Party.

What Bank just loaned those idiots 15 million dollars?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7578 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:43 am to
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They can't define what "illegal order" has been given.


Thanks for posting. Good video for exposing the bullshite.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7578 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:54 am to
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Has anyone asked them specifically about the illegal orders they are discussing because I have not seen it which would be typical of today's media


Tchefunctetiger posted this video which asked exactly that. Needless to say, there wasn't a good answer:


Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35174 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:22 am to
The entire statement about "illegal orders" was just another psyop. When enough public officials repeat a narrative, it tends to take hold. Anyone who is paying attention knows that no illegal orders have been given. But continuously bringing up the term, gaslights the populace and reinforces the alternate reality.

The latest episode of "The Why Files" went into these psyops and how to identify them scientifically to reinforce your suspicions. The NCI Engineered Reality Scoring System is a foolproof tool for identifying psyops. When you apply the questions to every major US and world event that has affected the US since the end of WW2, you'll be shocked to see that the evidence of the government blatantly lying to us about EVERYTHING, is absolutely overwhelming.

LINK- TWF YouTube. Worth a watch if you've got 30 minutes.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56002 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:24 am to
What was wrong with Trumps truthful statement that Sedition is punishable by death?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87301 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:27 am to
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We have sitting U.S. elected officials, including Senator Mark Kelly, now telling troops that they can refuse illegal orders.


Troops already know that not only CAN they not carry out illegal orders, they are legally and morally obligated not to under UCMJ.

So this is nothing more than an attempt to stir the pot.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 10:30 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87301 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:29 am to
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What was wrong with Trumps truthful statement that Sedition is punishable by death?


Which wasn’t directed to anyone in particular.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56002 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:31 am to
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Which wasn’t directed to anyone in particular.


Exactly. It’s ok to assume what Trump insinuates, but not the Dems in Congress?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:31 am to
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What was wrong with Trumps truthful statement that Sedition is punishable by death?

Legally? Nothing

In terms of PR? He came off as unhinged
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464606 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:32 am to
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Exactly. It’s ok to assume what Trump insinuates


Stephen Miller made it pretty clear.

The MAGA content creators are the ones who ran with the argument that Trump was responding to the DEMs, too. The response was mostly to the MAGA content creators more than Trump.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9616 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:41 am to
I mean, it’s literally drilled in your head throughout service time that illegal orders are to be ignored and reported. Is my basic training drill instructor guilty of sedition?
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
16953 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:43 am to
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mmmmmbeeer


Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9616 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:45 am to
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Gifman


If I’m creepy for what I said, I wonder what you think of Trump saying he’d frick his own daughter?

But back to sedition…was my DI guilty of sedition?
Posted by SoWhat
Member since May 2013
617 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:46 am to
Must like what is racist or what is hate speech. It's just on the Dems to decide. This is seditious and worse than the J6 riots
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