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Should We Establish a U.S. Foreign Legion
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:19 am
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:19 am
Let's copy the French and establish a U.S. Foreign Legion. Join up and we will give you a new identity no questions asked. Let them do our dirty work. Serve your allotted time and we will give you citizenship; if you live that long. Desert and we will track you down and kill you. Sounds like a win for all to me.
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Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:22 am to Missouri Waltz
I’m good with that.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:29 am to Missouri Waltz
We do.
The ciA.
The ciA.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:29 am to jimmy the leg
I'm good with that, just don't emulate the Spanish FL. They look like Aggies
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:13 am to Missouri Waltz
The obvious problem is that it makes war cheaper politically.
If the casualties are foreign-born troops promised citizenship instead of Americans from Ohio, Texas, and Louisiana, the public backlash is lower. That means presidents and Congress become more willing to use force in situations where they would normally hesitate.
That said, you could reasonably argue this dynamic already exists. The politicians, donors, think-tank ghouls, and media hawks who push modern wars are increasingly insulated from the cost of those wars. Their kids are not the ones getting sent. In many cases, they do not even have children of their own with any real chance of serving.
A U.S. Foreign Legion would not invent that problem, but it would formalize it. It would take an already unhealthy separation between the war-making class and the war-fighting class and make it even more transactional, and more politically convenient.
If the casualties are foreign-born troops promised citizenship instead of Americans from Ohio, Texas, and Louisiana, the public backlash is lower. That means presidents and Congress become more willing to use force in situations where they would normally hesitate.
That said, you could reasonably argue this dynamic already exists. The politicians, donors, think-tank ghouls, and media hawks who push modern wars are increasingly insulated from the cost of those wars. Their kids are not the ones getting sent. In many cases, they do not even have children of their own with any real chance of serving.
A U.S. Foreign Legion would not invent that problem, but it would formalize it. It would take an already unhealthy separation between the war-making class and the war-fighting class and make it even more transactional, and more politically convenient.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:16 am to Missouri Waltz
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Let them do our dirty work. Serve your allotted time and we will give you citizenship
Is that the profile you want for immigrants to the US? Contract killers from foreign countries?
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:23 am to TBoy
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Is that the profile you want for immigrants to the US? Contract killers from foreign countries?
It’s worked for France since the 1830’s
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:24 am to 14&Counting
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It’s worked for France since the 1830’s
I don't think any demographic decision France has made since that time could be described as "working."
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:25 am to 14&Counting
quote:You sure about that?
It’s worked for France since the 1830’s
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:26 am to northshorebamaman
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If the casualties are foreign-born troops promised citizenship instead of Americans from Ohio, Texas, and Louisiana, the public backlash is lower. That means presidents and Congress become more willing to use force in situations where they would normally hesitate.
That said, you could reasonably argue this dynamic already exists. The politicians, donors, think-tank ghouls, and media hawks who push modern wars are increasingly insulated from the cost of those wars. Their kids are not the ones getting sent. In many cases, they do not even have children of their own with any real chance of serving.
A U.S. Foreign Legion would not invent that problem, but it would formalize it. It would take an already unhealthy separation between the war-making class and the war-fighting class and make it even more transactional, and more politically convenient.
That's how things were for centuries, especially in Europe. Wars were limited affairs fought frequently, and most of the guys on the ground were professional mercenaries, not your average guy. That only changed in the mid 18th century or so as it morphed into total war.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:28 am to Missouri Waltz
We kind of already have it. There are a lot of Africans from Ghana, Cameroon and Nigeria in the US Army mostly. They get their Green cards with the expressed intent that after active duty in about 2 years they end up on a real fas track for naturalization. Most fees are waived too.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 11:34 am to northshorebamaman
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You sure about that?
You have to differentiate between a dude who risked his life and gave the Legion at least 5 years and the invasion of Moslems and African savages.
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