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Should the Trump admin threaten the UK and other European nations about their censorship?

Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:26 pm
I think he should. Not sure what we should threaten to do to them, but their leftist governments are openly imprisoning people for hate speech on social media.

They should force them to pass free speech laws or else. I think many people in Europe would welcome our “influence” in this arena.

It would also allow the people of Europe to express their displeasure with their governments and their insane immigration policies.
Posted by Barbados
Member since Nov 2024
2089 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:26 pm to
Yes

Pull all military spending in those countries as well
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24922 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:27 pm to
No, he should define it in terms that if you want to continue to do business with us and be our allies, you cannot violate certain bedrock core principles of America.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:30 pm to
Yes. The UK is working with Sen. Klobuchar to attack free speech and "kill X". EU going after social media, especially Elon.

Our entire relationship with the UK must be re-calibrated to start with.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115482 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:30 pm to
Yep
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:31 pm to
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No, he should define it in terms that if you want to continue to do business with us and be our allies, you cannot violate certain bedrock core principles of America.
Well we’ve got to use some sort of leverage with them. I’m sure someone in the administration can come up with something to punish them if they continue down this path.

More than just “This is wrong, jailing people for speech you disagree with.” We need a stick, not a carrot.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

if you want to continue to do business with us and be our allies, you cannot violate certain bedrock core principles of America.


That should go for every country. Looking at China and Saudi Arabia.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28670 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:34 pm to
Personal I think Trump should expel the British Ambassador for show for them interfering with our election by polling for the Democrats.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
24496 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:35 pm to
Well, the United States has always used sanctions to protect the basic liberties of people around the world, so this would seem to fit.

At the very least, unlike the fraudulent way the Dims have been using the asylum system to import new third world voters who will suck of the government teet and stay on the Democrat plantation, it sound like these people (exercising the free speech) are the ones who should be eligible for asylum.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76527 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:35 pm to
Only if its this..." To our allies in Europe. The free people of America will no longer support being a part of an organization of nations, NATO, that no longer supports free speech for its citizens, How can we as Americans give defense to countries who give offence to its own people".

The Don
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Personal I think Trump should expel the British Ambassador for show for them interfering with our election by polling for the Democrats.
I agree. Would be a nice shot across the bow to those fricking Commies.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39465 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:36 pm to
Should we meddle in other countries business? Maybe we should worry about America first and leave Britain to the British etc.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Should we meddle in other countries business?
If we don’t “meddle” in our European allies business, they won’t be our allies in a decade or two.

They’re quickly moving towards either full blown Socialism or being overtaken by Muslims.
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
3091 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:47 pm to
Damn right. Tell them to get with the program or we will cut their commie asses loose.
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
3091 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Pull all military spending in those countries as well

Cut loose, no aid at all
No NATO
No .military bases
No UN
Nothing at all
Maybe china can help them
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39465 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

If we don’t “meddle” in our European allies business, they won’t be our allies in a decade or two.


How exactly has the USA benefited from these so called allies? Maybe it’s time to reconsider the world order
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

How exactly has the USA benefited from these so called allies?


LINK

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Goods Exports

The United States is the 2nd largest goods exporter in the world, behind only China. U.S. goods exports to the world totaled $2.1 trillion in 2022, up 17.5 percent ($307.3 billion) from 2021. Canada was the largest purchaser of U.S. goods exports in 2022, accounting for 17.3 percent of total U.S. goods exports. The top five purchasers of U.S. goods exports in 2022 were: Canada ($356.5 billion), Mexico ($324.3 billion), China ($150.4 billion), Japan ($80.2 billion), and the United Kingdom ($76.2 billion). U.S. goods exports to the European Union 27 were $350.8 billion.


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Services Exports

The United States is the largest services exporter in the world. In 2022, U.S. exports of services were $926.0 billion, up 16.4 percent ($130.7 billion) from 2021. U.S. exports of services account for 30.7 percent of overall U.S. exports in 2022. Ireland was the largest purchaser of U.S. services exports in 2022 accounting for 9 percent of total U.S. services exports. The top five purchasers of U.S. services exports in 2022 were: Ireland ($83.1 billion), the United Kingdom ($80.9 billion), Canada ($69.5 billion), Switzerland ($52.4 billion), and China ($42.2 billion). U.S. services exports to the European Union 27 were $238.6 billion.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35565 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 2:59 pm to
Should definitely threaten them about their continual abuse of American companies that are fined and harassed in Europe.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68483 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 3:00 pm to
There is a guy on Twitter named Richard Medhurst. He mostly just posts pro-Palestinian stuff. I won't say I agree with him, but he has opened my eyes to a lot of things. He is facing terrorism charges there. It's way worse than Assange IMO because at least with Assange there was some question about him facilitating or coordinating hacks. But, you don't have First Amendment rights in the UK, so he's screwed. The prosecution is weird given that the U.K. seems to have otherwise bent over for the Muslim mob.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 3:01 pm
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8038 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 3:09 pm to
They also interfered in our election sending people here to help the Harris campaign.
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