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Should McConnell let Single Payer go to a vote?

Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:09 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14477 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:09 am
Bernie pushing single payer- has cosponsors this time

Normally a Senate Leader would shut this noise down and not let it come up for a vote.

But maybe we want this to come to vote to get Dems (and Republicans) on record.

quote:

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Napoleon Bonaparte
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:10 am to
Didn't they already do this during the skinny repeal bullshite?
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:11 am to
It would be no different than the nearly 100 Obamacare repeal bills that went up for a vote when they never had a chance of passing. It's entirely symbolic.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:11 am to
Sure why not
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:12 am to
Leaders in congress should let most bills come to a vote rather than distorting democracy to whatever petty lobbies they have at the time.

This includes both left and right.

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14477 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Didn't they already do this during the skinny repeal bullshite?


I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5830 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:17 am to
He does like healthcare bills that go to vote and fail.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 10:18 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14477 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Leaders in congress should let most bills come to a vote rather than distorting democracy to whatever petty lobbies they have at the time.

This includes both left and right.



Yeah Congress does a lot of whack-a-doo stuff. It's odd, because Louisiana is so backwards in a lot of ways, but it's legislative process seems better to me:

1. Any bill that passes out of committee gets scheduled for a vote. The author can decided not to move the bill and that's it.
2. Bills have to focus on a single item- no Omnibus bills
3. Amendments have to be germane to the original bill

Not perfect by any means but seems like a better process to me. I suspect a lot of legislatures run like this.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:24 am to
Congress actually votes on things?



Who knew.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56247 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:00 am to
They should look at the polling numbers for single payer. A comfortable majority of Americans are against it.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81289 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:01 am to
Nah because that won't come close to passing and so we wouldn't really get an accurate count.

You only get a true accurate count if a bill is literally 1 vote away (repeal of Obamacare).
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 11:02 am
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33979 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:09 am to
Absolutely. Get every one of those Socialists on record.

Undoubtedly, there would be a significant number of 'Not Voting' recorded.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40088 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Didn't they already do this during the skinny repeal bullshite?



Yes

quote:

The Senate resoundingly rejected a Republican effort to get Democrats on the record regarding their support — or lack thereof — for a single-payer healthcare system.

Senators voted 0-57 on the amendment from GOP Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.) to implement a government-funded healthcare system.

Democratic Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Jon Tester (Mont.) and Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) and Independent Sen. Angus King (Maine) joined all Republicans in voting “no,” while 43 Democrats voted “present.”
LINK

It had 57 votes against it.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14477 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:14 am to
Thanks!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Should McConnell let Single Payer go to a vote? by BigJim


Personally, I think that it should be policy that anything that can get 25% of the votes in either chamber has to be brought to the full floor for a vote.

That shite would end a whole lot of grandstanding on both sides.
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