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re: Should Israel offer to give up their nukes as a concession for Iran to stop pursuing?

Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:00 am to
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:00 am to
If we’re not gonna trust Iran with nukes I don’t know why we’d trust Israel.

But the odds of that happening are about negative 4000% so this thread is pointless
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173810 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:05 am to
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Well, we can end this thread right here...

Well done sir...

Difference is Russia has nukes and Iran doesn't

The better analogy would be do they want to be Russia without nukes

ETA - And the outcome of Russia not having nukes is they wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if they didn't because the NATO countries would have crushed them for it. Maybe if Israel didn't have nukes they'd stop being aggressive and starting wars with their neighbors.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 8:07 am
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:08 am to
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They wanna be like Ukraine?



Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:09 am to
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But when it comes to nuclear arms, Israel very much lives by the notion of rules for thee and not for me. There's absolutely no reason at all that Isreal cannot engage in non-proliferation talks.


Israel operates under the assumption that everything they do is correct, and most people on this board have the same assumption about Israel. They are the good guys, forever and no matter what.

We will plug up our ears not to hear evidence to the contrary.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24032 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:09 am to
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Maybe if Israel didn't have nukes they'd stop being aggressive and starting wars with their neighbors.

Wishful thinking.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22091 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:10 am to
yes. Absolutely.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173810 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:10 am to
I know it's not going to happen but we should at least talk about it honestly

The Ukraine example was stupid
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22091 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:11 am to
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Get back to me when they attack a civilian music festival and take hostages and rape innocent women. Pretty dumb take.


They just had military leaders quit because they were indiscriminately targeting civilians. And they have had a long history of raping prisoners.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 8:13 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24032 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:13 am to
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I know it's not going to happen but we should at least talk about it honestly


The entire triggering factor for Israeli "aggression" you speak about, is Iran and their proxies. Period.

For that reason, the US wants them gone. A problem for Israel is a thorn in our arse across the board.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68846 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:14 am to
Nope, plain and simple…
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23972 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:16 am to
If history has taught us anything…, it is religious fanatics that are the ones to fear.

Therefore, no.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10019 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:19 am to
No.

Damn you must be really naive son.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
12091 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:20 am to
If you're serious, you are one stupid mofo.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173810 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:22 am to
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The entire triggering factor for Israeli "aggression" you speak about, is Iran and their proxies. Period.

Or their plan for a greater Israel
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20365 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:23 am to
Damn, you are one shortbus riding individual.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24032 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:31 am to
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Or their plan for a greater Israel


I'm not anti-Zionist.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2254 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:33 am to
Pretty sure they are sorting it out. That's Israeli jets currently bombing Iran.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2254 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:34 am to
Do you really think Iran will stop pursuing if Israel does this? I mean they have stated multiple times they aren't pursuing a nuke but the evidence doesn't really support that.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173810 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 8:59 am to
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I'm not anti-Zionist.

Fair enough.

I am. I don't think it's good practice to constantly expand your territory into your neighbors territory. It's why much of the terrorism against Israel exists.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:16 am to
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Difference is Russia has nukes and Iran doesn't


I suppose you missed the history part where we convinced Ukraine to give up their nukes?
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