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re: Should Iran be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon?

Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:42 pm to
Not just vows of such, but actual targeting and killing of Americans, in various certain situations, specifically because they were Americans.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:47 pm to
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Trump has turned you pro-Iran.


I'm neutral on Iran, but frick spending a dollar of tax money on them.

You liberals have accepted the debt and dont seem to want the gravy train to stop.

Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:55 pm to
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Iran is the world largest sponsor, funder, and exporter of terrorism


Whatever proxy groups Iran has sponsored, it pales in comparison to the damage our proxies have done in the region. The U.S. funded Al Qaeda and ISIS. Israel bankrolled Hamas to weaken the Palestinian Authority.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:56 pm to
They have the right to pursue nuclear weapons just like every other country.


And every other country has the right to try and stop them.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1976 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:01 pm to
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Whatever proxy groups Iran has sponsored, it pales in comparison to the damage our proxies have done in the region. The U.S. funded Al Qaeda and ISIS. Israel bankrolled Hamas to weaken the Palestinian Authority.


This is exactly the position I would expect a 3x Trump voter to take.

Unless of course you’d like to admit you were full of shite.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9678 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:01 pm to
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And every other country has the right to try and stop them.


You would let someone else try to tell you how you can defend your home? Anyone that does that is probably trying to rob you.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 11:03 pm
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:08 pm to
What point are you trying to make by blatantly ignoring the many comments made in this thread about what makes Iran a completely different beast than any other in terms of danger and threat? Surely you’re doing so on purpose. Gosh I hope so. Anyhoo, what gives, dude? Why continue to act as if Iran is on the same equal footing as everyone else?
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 11:12 pm
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1976 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:12 pm to
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What point are you trying to make by blatantly ignoring the many comments made in this thread about what makes Iran a completely different beast than any other in terms of danger and threat? Surely you’re doing so on purpose. Gosh I hope so. Anyhoo, what gives, dude?


He claims he’s a 3x Trump voter. You expect him to interact above board on anything else?

He’s been lying and ignoring since the moment he started posting about this conflict.
Posted by TheGooner
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:17 pm to
No
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:32 am to
A nuclear Iran keeps Israel honest. I was in favor of that with the with religious leaders in charge. I’m not so sure I would give that kind of power to the Republican guard.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25973 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:35 am to
Iran practices a fundamentalist Islam. That's not the same in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. They don't govern that way. They allow women rights, etc. As far as Iran, we have to first try to reason with them diplomatically. I think this is mostly for political reasons. They should be allowed to defend their country, but not with nukes.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36617 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 12:37 am to
So being sick and tired of Israel’s efforts to gain influence within the U.S. government is one thing, and whether I agree or disagree, I still say that’s a fair criticism. But to equate Iran to Israel on the whole? No way, I got nothing for that assertion.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2106 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 1:10 am to
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Why would Iran not want nuclear weapons?


Of course the IRGC want one. They are the sponsor of several terror groups in the region and butchers of their own people. They can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20215 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:47 am to
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Iran wants nukes to defend itself from regime change. Which is exactly what we (Israel) wants.


This is what the high majority of the world wants, not just the US and Israel.

Iran is the main destabilizer in the world and is involved globally in every anti-west agitation. They are strategic allies with both China and Russia that both oppose USA strength and dominance.

Only anti-Americans want Iran to remain unchanged which unfortunately is a vocal percentage of US filth.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:04 am to
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You would let someone else try to tell you how you can defend your home?


We all do.

Example: it's illegal to set deadly booby traps on your property to stop intruders.

That's the government (the collective citizenry) literally telling us what we can and can't to defend our homes.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25973 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:56 am to
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if simply being Muslim makes you fundamentally irrational, then why does the USA have security arrangements and partnerships with nations led by irrational people?


Fundamentalist Islam is not Muslim. Iran is the former. Most of the Gulf states treat their citizens like Westerners and don't govern on fundamentalist ideology.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3138 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:15 am to
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Iran practices a fundamentalist Islam. That's not the same in Saudi Arabia
What?

Saudi Arabia (home of Osama bin Laden) is founded on Wahhabism, which is about as strict and fundamentalist an interpretation of Islam as there is. They can literally execute you for leaving Islam. They ban all non-Muslim worship. They crucified a teenager a few years ago. The only difference is we all try hard not to think about their beliefs very deeply because they're our allies and they have a lot of oil.
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They should be allowed to defend their country, but not with nukes.
Oh, then you disagree with President Trump, who says that they also can't be allowed to have missiles (you know, because they could hit Israel, the country whose war we're fighting).
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 6:22 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5326 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:40 am to
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The USSR? The French gave Israel the bomb.


Actually Isreal stole the material from us in 1965.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115221 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:56 am to
No
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7901 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 8:05 pm to
It might not be Trump and Hegseth when this hypothetical scenario occurs.

Obama, no.

Biden, no.

Kamalalaladingdong, no.

Pritzker, no.

Newscum, no.

Whitmer, no.

Anyone but Trump would poll before acting.
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