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re: Should illegals have 2a and constitutional rights?

Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:51 pm to
They aren’t illegals dumb dumb
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53613 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

You're posting incoherently so a rational response isn't possible.


The tactic of a leftist when they can no longer defend their position.


My quote is from the 11th. Take it up with them if you can not grasp it.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:54 pm to
Why don't you answer the questions?

quote:

What is "Communist" about desiring to limit government for more people?

You think Communism relies on a limited government?


You have been avoiding answering for a few pages now.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20531 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:58 pm to
No Constitutional rights until citizenship.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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425837 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

No Constitutional rights until citizenship.

So we need to amend the Constitution, then?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141557 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

No Constitutional rights until citizenship.


No due process in the case of a tourist being arrested for too much weed?
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73064 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:00 pm to
190 people disagree with you so far on here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

What about those here seeking amnesty?


Are they citizens? No. So that's your answer


Resident aliens can in some states.

Theyre not citizens.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

190 people disagree with you so far on here.

I've already discussed mob thinking and how scary it is
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73064 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:01 pm to
You’re the cult…
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73064 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:38 pm to
Up to 8 shitheads
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4932 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:50 pm to
i know you are a simple man and not likely to grasp nuance, but do you not realize that i am politically aligned with you about 98% of the way? yet, because we disagree on the nature of inalienable rights and the constitution, you have wished death upon me, questioned my oath to defend the constitution, and acted like a complete rage-filled lunatic on this thread. i've even agreed with you in this thread that i dont want illegals having weapons, but that i just prefer to err on the side of liberty. yet, you are willing to burn down the entire house over this. remarkable.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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425837 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

i know you are a simple man and not likely to grasp nuance, but do you not realize that i am politically aligned with you about 98% of the way? yet, because we disagree on the nature of inalienable rights and the constitution, you have wished death upon me, questioned my oath to defend the constitution, and acted like a complete rage-filled lunatic on this thread. i've even agreed with you in this thread that i dont want illegals having weapons, but that i just prefer to err on the side of liberty. yet, you are willing to burn down the entire house over this. remarkable.






And they wonder why the vast majority of the country laughs at them
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4260 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

I also think domestic right wing terrorists should not have 2A constitutional rights.


They don't. If they're a domestic terrorist it means they've committed a felony and been convicted of it. And at that point, they lost their right to a firearm.

The constitution doesn't grant rights. It restrict government from stepping on them. Illegals are born with the same rights you and I have. Whether they can exercise them or not is a different thing entirely. And coming to a foreign country, you will have to go with their laws about firearms. Same as you will if you go to another country.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

If they're a domestic terrorist it means they've committed a felony and been convicted of it. A

No it doesn't

quote:

The constitution doesn't grant rights. It restrict government from stepping on them.

Yes. I am a principled small government person.

quote:

Whether they can exercise them or not is a different thing entirely.

Tomato tomato. A distinction without a difference.

quote:

Same as you will if you go to another country.

America is the most free nation on earth. We won't have nearly the same protection from expansive/oppressive government elsewhere.

This discussion is only about America.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73517 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

i've even agreed with you in this thread that i dont want illegals having weapons, but that i just prefer to err on the side of liberty.


People like him will never get that.

Something about sacrificing liberty for safety...
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73517 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:08 pm to
fricking shocker that Jjobama jumped in to defend the trampling of the Second Amendment.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Should illegals have 2a and constitutional rights?


NO!

/thread
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73064 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:09 pm to
The retard above you disagrees
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
73064 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:14 pm to
Northshore logs off, Cuckguy shows up…
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