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re: Sharpton upset at R Congressman’s claim that US is a Republic, not Democracy
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:39 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:39 pm to AggieHank86
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Does this term have any meaning in political science? I think you mean "pure democracy"
Of course I do, but Pop Pop needs to be talked to with a little consideration.
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:39 pm to AggieHank86
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A "pure democracy" is simply unconstrained by a constitution.
And direct vote
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Direct democracy, sometimes called "pure democracy," is a form of democracy in which all laws and policies imposed by governments are determined by the people themselves, rather than by representatives who are elected by the people.
In a true direct democracy, all laws, bills, and even court decisions are voted on by all citizens.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Roger, my angry little friend, I have spent two years trying to get you to act like an adult, and you have refused at every turn. Yes, I asked someone else to give me a hand. Your childishness is tiresome.
The fact that you got a scolding tends to indicate that you were indeed acting like an arse. Take it to heart, and try to change your ways.
The fact that you got a scolding tends to indicate that you were indeed acting like an arse. Take it to heart, and try to change your ways.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:41 pm to AggieHank86
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I have spent two years trying to get you to act like an adult, and you have refused at every turn
And like a child, you run to the authorities when you lose.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:42 pm to AggieHank86
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Take it to heart, and try to change your ways.
It's better to just roll him over to the window and let the anger chill out. He had a big lunch and it gave him some oomf. You love to see it from someone his age.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:42 pm to LSUconvert
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It's better to just roll him over to the window and let the anger chill out.
I'm feeling pretty good son, I taught you a few things again today.
Youre my favorite student.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:44 pm to Fun Bunch
This thread is aids
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm feeling pretty good son, I taught you a few things again today.
Youre my favorite student.
D'aww. That's my Pop Pop. Still thinks he's a teacher. It's days like these we really need to cherish.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:45 pm to LSUconvert
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The United States is a democracy
Nope. The founders spoke quite a bit about this. We are not a democracy. Democracy is tyranny. Democracy fails to protect the people from the people.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Roger, this board is a little society. Like every society, it largely functions by expecting its members to self govern. When one member (like you, for instance) refuses to do so, it is not unreasonable to ask the governing authorities of the society to seek acceptable behavior from the recalcitrant member
run to the authorities
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:46 pm to burger bearcat
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We are not a democracy
We are.
No amount of fear or delusion changes the definition of democracy.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:46 pm to burger bearcat
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Nope. The founders spoke quite a bit about this.
Indeed.
I did learn something from Hall Monitor Hank though, the best language is the most accurate language, therefore we are a representative republic, not a democracy.
Thanks Hank for the tip.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
not sure what this debate is about
we are an oligarchy masquerading as a democratic republic
we are an oligarchy masquerading as a democratic republic
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:50 pm to FearlessFreep
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we are an oligarchy
Posted on 8/5/23 at 3:00 pm to LSUconvert
nm
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 3:04 pm to burger bearcat
quote:Hamilton, for instance, was specifically critical of “pure democracy.“ not democracy in generalquote:Nope. The founders spoke quite a bit about this. We are not a democracy. Democracy is tyranny. Democracy fails to protect the people from the people.
The United States is a democracy
quote:he was very specific in distinguishing “direct democracy” from “representative democracy” and confirming that both are a form of “democracy“
It has been observed by an honorable gentleman, that a pure democracy, if it were practicable, would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved, that no position in politics is more false than this.
quote:you can find similar quotes and distinctions from almost all of the founding fathers, with Adams being a notable exception. The man was basically a monarchist
Great confusion about the words democracy, aristocracy, monarchy...Democracy in my sense, where the whole power of the government in the people, whether exercised by themselves or by representatives, chosen by them either mediately or immediately and legally accountable to them...Consequence, the proposed government a representative democracy...Constitution revocable and alterable by the people. This representative democracy as far as is consistent with its genius has all the features of good government.”
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 3:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The best evidence that these United States are a republic:
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We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States
Posted on 8/5/23 at 3:08 pm to LSUconvert
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Okay, show your work. What evidence is there that Sharpton meant Pure Democracy?
“Comprehensive reforms, such as an expansion to the bench, are crucial to rebuilding trust, safeguarding our rights, and reestablishing a fair and impartial court,” said the Rev. Al Sharpton.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 3:08 pm to jrodLSUke
Why do leftist get irate at the notion we are a republic?
Posted on 8/5/23 at 3:10 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:Just … wowquote:We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States
The best evidence that these United States are a republic:
The Declaration of iIndependence was not a governing document, and it did not establish any form of government, including a “republic.”. To the contrary, it specifically stated that it was establishing 13 distinct independent sovereign entities.
It was, however, promptly followed by the establishment of a confederacy, not a republic. A confederacy that failed, by the way.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 3:15 pm
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