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re: Sharpton upset at R Congressman’s claim that US is a Republic, not Democracy
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:22 pm to RCDfan1950
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:22 pm to RCDfan1950
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The sad fact is that many on the Left no longer believe in Constitutional Principle
Progressives do want a direct democracy despite the fact that the current form of govt protects the minority.
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:So, you acknowledge that the proper terminology is "pure democracy" and not "true democracy."
Does this term ("true democracy") have any meaning in political science?quote:
Yes, its also called a pure democracy.
Thx
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:26 pm to AggieHank86
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So, you acknowledge that the proper terminology is "pure democracy" and not "true democracy."
I acknowledge that they are the same thing and you didn't have a clue. Everyone but you and Convert knows.
Why do you RA Hank? Youre a walking stereotype.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:26 pm to LSUconvert
quote:As best I can tell, he is using "quasi-democracy" in lieu of "constitutional democracy" and "true democracy" or "real democracy" in lieu of "pure democracy."
Quasi democracy. That pesky constitution.quote:
Nothing quasi about it.
For the life of me, I cannot determine why he insists upon using his own made-up terminology rather than the accepted terminology of political scientists the world over.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
There is also the issue of representative voting, which also doesn't occur in a real democracy.
Also completely irrelevant. Why are you moving the goal posts so much?
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:It is hardly my fault that you are incapable of interacting with other humans like an adult.
Why do you RA Hank? Youre a walking stereotype.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:27 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
For the life of me, I cannot determine why he insists upon using his own made-up terminology rather than the accepted terminology of political scientists the world over.
I can.
He's having an emotional reaction that he can't work himself through.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:27 pm to LSUconvert
quote:
Also completely irrelevant. Why are you moving the goal posts so much?
Would you prefer more formal language? Everyone but you and Hank understand.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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but we are not a democracy.
Define Democracy. A definition of True Democracy is irrelevant, please keep in mind.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Would you prefer more formal language?
You're already trying to use formal language and failing
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:29 pm to AggieHank86
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Why do you RA Hank? Youre a walking stereotype.
It is hardly my fault that you are incapable of interacting with other humans like an adult.
You are a walking stereotype. Everything people believe about you is absolutely true.
You RA even when slinging insults yourself. No wonder the Aggie board banned you.
Go tell the Teacher someone is being mean to you Hank.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:30 pm to AggieHank86
When democrats like Sharpton use the word democracy they’re using it in the context of pure democracy because that’s what they really want.
Democrats have been shitting on the concept of a Constitutional Republic for years.
Democrats have been shitting on the concept of a Constitutional Republic for years.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:31 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
When democrats like Sharpton use the word democracy they’re using it in the context of pure democracy because that’s what they really want.
Exactly.
Its no accident they push the word incessantly and damn near religiously..
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Just tired of your relentless childishness.
Got angry did you..
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:32 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
When democrats like Sharpton use the word democracy they’re using it in the context of pure democracy because that’s what they really want.
Okay, show your work. What evidence is there that Sharpton meant Pure Democracy?
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:33 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
trial-by-combat
Would support
But nobody really wants me to rule the USA
Seriously, we have democrats saying we’re a democracy
Republicans saying we’re a republic
But again, we are a constitutional democratic republic
Having AT LEAST three parties in the mix would be ideal, but we’ve reached the point where we will have a r/d congress, and a r/d executive
That’s acceptable, IMO
But there are three branches, and judicial is now also obviously r or d
If we could find a way for the J branch to be 100% “C” (constitutional), we might actually have this all figured out
PIPE DREAMS
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:If you reference "pure democracy," this is correct.
True democracies have no constitution
quote:Wrong.
True democracies have have direct vote.
A "pure democracy" is simply unconstrained by a constitution. It can take the form of EITHER a direct democracy OR a representative democracy.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:36 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I think that they are basically suggesting (incorrectly) that we have a "pure democracy" rather than a "constitutional democracy," with all the limitations inherent in the latter.
You’re still intentionally blurring the issue. A republic is significantly more than the broader category of constitutional democracy.
A republic, especially our republic, with its three branches and two legislative houses, was specifically designed to be a bulwark against pure democracy.
The left loves to manipulate language in order to create esoteric and exoteric knowledge diodes. Also know as Mott and Bailey logic, the left uses an outward facing definition that is defensible and an inward (in-group) facing definition that is used as a lever for power.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:37 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Just tired of your relentless childishness.
And youve never resorted to childishness.
Folks, Hank will RA when you piss him off. Just remember this, when he calls you a name get him banned from here as well.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 2:37 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:and they are misusing the term just as surely as Roger is.
When democrats like Sharpton use the word democracy they’re using it in the context of pure democracy because that’s what they really want.
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