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re: Sessions torched by lawmakers for marijuana move

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Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:40 am to
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The 4D space chess side of me tells me this is a Trump plan to light a fire under congress’ arse to get something done. I mean 70% of the people are okay with pot legalization in some form. IMO the biggest obstacle to legalizing pot is the justice system, police state and drug industry who thrive off of the criminalization of pot. Public outcry has to be loud enough to drown out these powerful lobbying forces that enjoy these laws. Until then congress will do nothing.
This is my line of thinking as well. But why in da frick did they do this close to the midterms?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20410 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:43 am to
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Has marijuana been prescribed by a Physician as a treatment for the seizures? What chemical in marijuana is effective in treating seizures? Are there any other legal drugs that are effective in treating seizures?

How about a simple yes. cannabidiol-epilepsy-study
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58666 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:46 am to
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Any decent job nowadays come with a background check and urine/blood test for pot and alcohol.


Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:48 am to
Why don't the frickers just change the law at the federal level and solve this for once
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22079 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:50 am to
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Why don't the frickers just change the law at the federal level and solve this for once



Lobby dollars. They'll grandstand while the cameras are out and then go into a meeting room and gladly take those big pharma and alcohol checks.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20888 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:50 am to
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Any decent job nowadays and local govt jobs for sure-- come with a background check and urine/blood test for pot and alcohol.


True story, I have not once been drug tested since I moved out of LA and into yankeedom.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:51 am to
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So currently, there is no drug test that can determine whether you've smoked marijuana, or just taken CBD oil?


No there isn't the test is extremely inaccurate to test actual impairment and because it's been schedule 1 for so long nothing better has come.

Ill give you an example I can take CBD oil and have literally no impairment but fail a drug test. On the other hand I can sit next to someone smoking get a buzz from the secondhand smoke and pass a test because it would be within allowable limits.



Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20014 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:52 am to
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Has marijuana been prescribed by a Physician as a treatment for the seizures? What chemical in marijuana is effective in treating seizures? Are there any other legal drugs that are effective in treating seizures? It sounds like this person is using his seizures as an excuse to get high.


My bro in law suffers from many conditions stemming from brain damage at birth. He has never walked. He suffers from seizures.

I took one of his pills that is a muscle relaxer that he uses to treat seizures and it made me feel more loopy and out of it than most anything I have ever taken. Wasn't controlled or anything.

This was just a muscle relaxer, he has much stronger antipsychotics he takes that also treat seizures.

Point being, the legal stuff is by no means less strong, and it is why most of it is controlled. If he wanted to "get high", there are a plethora of stronger drugs he could get his hands on legally than pot. Hell he could get his hands on pretty much any anti anxiety (Xanax) just to counter the effects of seizure medicine.

Congress, and the AG for that matter don't test, examine, investigate and aren't aware of a fraction of the drugs that are legal. It's time they actually take a look at pot and make a determination of where we are going in the future.

While the research might not be there yet for many medical applications, it is their for its lack of chemical dependence and side effects. It is also is effective in treating forms of anxiety and certainly nasuea that his legal meds might be causing.

The treatment that people with serious conditions get is no joke and is not a perfect science.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:57 am to
Cops now have tests-- like the breathalizer is to DUI's to test and see if someone is high. Yet people drive on narcotics. Where does it end?

Police are using new mouth-swab tests to nab drivers under the influence of marijuana and other drugs - LA Times
LINK
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:59 am to
Here in NC if you apply for a city govt job they do a background, drug and alcohol test.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:07 am to
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Where does it end?


That part won't idiots are going to continue to drive impaired unless you make the penalty as strict as a murder conviction there is no stopping that.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45732 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:16 am to
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I smoke / consume high grade marijuana 3 to 4 times a week after work. There are millions of Americans like me.
If millions of Americans injected bleach into their eyes you would do that, too? No reason to qualify your addiction because "others do it, too".
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:22 am to
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It's federally illegal to develop and test a device that would do this.....


Really? Do you know the rationale for this?



I hope anyone unfamiliar with the federal prohibition on marijuana reads this. It is a short and factually correct history of marijuana prohibition:

To understand why marijuana was outlawed, you need to understand the United States in the early 1900’s just after the Mexican Revolution. At this time we saw an influx of immigration from Mexico into states like Texas and Louisiana. Not surprising, these new Americans brought with them their native language, culture and customs. One of these customs was the use of cannabis as a medicine and relaxant.

Mexican immigrants referred to this plant as “marihuana”. While Americans were very familiar with “cannabis” because it was present in almost all tinctures and medicines available at the time, the word “marihuana” was a foreign term. So, when the media began to play on the fears that the public had about these new citizens by falsely spreading claims about the “disruptive Mexicans” with their dangerous native behaviors including marihuana use, the rest of the nation did not know that this “marihuana” was a plant they already had in their medicine cabinets.

The hysteria and attempt to control and demonize the Mexicana immigrants was easily spread to prey on fears of the African American communities as well.

Cannibus and the Hemp plant were common products in the everyday life of America's up until the 1930s.

In fact, most of the hysteria surrounding "marijuana" comes from ignorance, hyperbole, and lies. Many Americans who were out spokenly against this new drug called "marijuana" were themselves proponents of hemp and Cannibus.

Reefer Madness is a 1936–1939 American propaganda film revolving around the melodramatic events that ensue when high school students are lured by pushers to try marijuana—from a hit and run accident, to manslaughter, suicide, attempted rape, hallucinations, and descent into madness due to marijuana addiction. The film was directed by Louis Gasnier and featured a cast of mainly little-known actors.

Such education-exploitation films were common in the years following adoption of the stricter version of the Production Code in 1934. Other films included Esper's own earlier Marihuana (1936) and Elmer Clifton's Assassin of Youth (1937) and the subject of cannabis was particularly popular in the hysteria surrounding Anslinger's 1937 Marihuana Tax Act.

Some parties have argued that the aim of the Act was to reduce the size of the hemp industry largely as an effort of businessmen Andrew Mellon, Randolph Hearst, and the Du Pont family. The same parties have argued that with the invention of the decorticator, hemp had become a very cheap substitute for the paper pulp that was used in the newspaper industry. These parties argue that Hearst felt that this was a threat to his extensive timber holdings. Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury and the wealthiest man in the US, had invested heavily in the Du Pont family's new synthetic fiber, nylon, a fiber that was competing with hemp.

This tax act effectively ended the publics ability to grow and cultivate and use and produce Hemp in any form.

While the Act was ruled unconstitutional years later, it was replaced with the Controlled Substances Act in the 1970’s which established Schedules for ranking substances according to their dangerousness and potential for addiction. Cannabis was placed in the most restrictive category, Schedule I, supposedly as a place holder while then President Nixon commissioned a report to give a final recommendation.

The Schafer Commission, as it was called, declared that marijuana should not be in Schedule I and even doubted its designation as an illicit substance. However, Nixon discounted the recommendations of the commission, and marijuana remains a Schedule I substance.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26264 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:23 am to
Sessions needs to CTFO and let the states continue to decide.

Its only a matter of time before it becomes legalized at the national level anyways.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:30 am to
Why are you laughing? It is true. Background, Full DMV report, drug and alcohol tests at the nearest med care are required before many job offers. As of now, they test urine for alcohol, and a blood alcohol test--after employment- if you are in the company car and get in a car accident of any kind.

In DC or high corporate-- they may not do this but they do in many places.
This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 9:31 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:32 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:35 am to
Sir Winston was just trying to express that many use pot for medicinal reasons. I can attest it works for cancer patients nausea; and they also get healthy appetites (munchies) and energy and a sense of well being. I do believe Sessions is anti- medicinal pot..
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:37 am to
no Vermont passed there bill last year without a ballot referendum.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:40 am to
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Lobby dollars. They'll grandstand while the cameras are out and then go into a meeting room and gladly take those big pharma and alcohol checks.




This. This is the sole reason (aside from Congress being full of lazy assholes) that marijuana will not be legalized.

The alcohol and narcotic industry would take a hit, and that simply can not be allowed to happen.

Corporatists gonna corporatist.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:41 am to
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Congress could easily solve this by ending the federal prohibition on marijuana.


Yep. Get to work instead of this PR move outrage.
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