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re: Sessions torched by lawmakers for marijuana move

Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:42 am to
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Sessions needs to CTFO and let the states continue to decide.


Sessions is doing exactly what his office is there to do. Enforce existing laws.

It us up to Congress to fix the shite law they wrote.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:50 am to
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Sessions is doing exactly what his office is there to do. Enforce existing laws


I'm not buying this part. There was already a policy in place that he rescinded for the express purposes of going harder after it under guise of enforcing the law. If he would have left that policy in place there would be no issue.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 9:59 am to
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There was already a policy in place that he rescinded for the express purposes of going harder after it under guise of enforcing the law.


That policy in place should have never been enacted in the first place. The executive branch has no business publicly stating they are going to ignore certain laws.

Congress wrote the law. Congress is the one who should fix the law.

Period.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 10:52 am to
I'm in Denver on business. The local news showed clips of trump on campaign trail saying it wasn't a priority and others saying Sessions lied during testimony. If nothing else, it's a billion + dollar revenue industry in the state alone and employs a shite ton of people. They had some graphics of the numbers of people supported in security system contractors, HVAC contractors, real estate, general contractors, 3rd party quality control testing centers, etc and it was enormous.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:31 am to
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The executive branch has no business publicly stating they are going to ignore certain laws


They never said they were going to ignore it they said they would let the states enforce it how they saw fit as long as it didn't affect any children.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:36 am to
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They never said they were going to ignore it they said they would let the states enforce it how they saw fit as long as it didn't affect any children.


Did you even read what you just typed?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:42 am to
Why don’t they actually pass a bill instead of grandstanding?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13536 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:58 am to
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The Republicans need to pass a bill to decriminalize marijuana on the federal level and leave up to states to decide. Win, win all the way around




Exactly. Nation of laws and such.

Lawmakers are pissed because the ball was thrown back into their court. If you dont like the law work to change it. Do that with everything. From pot to immigration etc...

With that being said I am not a pot head and could care less. However it if passes we need some way to quickly test people to see if someone is impaired when driving, like a hand held breathalyzer.

Cause frick you if you are drunk or high and drive.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:08 pm to
they already have a test for drugs the cops issue.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Did you even read what you just typed?


Could have been worded better

but here you go

"Cole memo," the department recognized that the drug was still illegal under the federal Controlled Substances Act but gave federal prosecutors permission to focus their resources elsewhere, so long as the states didn't threaten other federal priorities, such as preventing the distribution of the drug to minors and targeting cartels.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Lawmakers are pissed because the ball was thrown back into their court. If you dont like the law work to change it. Do that with everything. From pot to immigration etc...


Doesn't help that Sessions has a well documented agenda against weed. If he weren't openly biased against it then it would be a different story.

quote:

However it if passes we need some way to quickly test people to see if someone is impaired when driving, like a hand held breathalyzer. Cause frick you if you are drunk or high and drive.


100% in agreement
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:16 pm to
When you point blank tell federal prosecutors they can "focus resources elsewhere", that's creating a policy of ignoring federal law. Same thing with creating a policy of ignoring federal immigration law.

You honestly don't see the huge issue here do you?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Stop smokin' dope if you don't want to have a fricked up life and no job.


what about good single malt whiskey?

I mean, I've wanted to fricking beat the shite out of people on that.......on THC, I just smile, giggle, chill and snack hard. But, by all means, keep pounding booze
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:23 pm to
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You honestly don't see the huge issue here do you?


No because as the AG isn't it also your call to what to focus the funding for. All that did was say we have better things we can spend money on than this. That is well within the rights of the AG. Stealing mail is also a federal crime should we throw billions of dollars at that also? No because it is bottom of the list of shite we need to worry about.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:35 pm to
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No because as the AG isn't it also your call to what to focus the funding for.


You're still not getting it. It's one thing to have discretion on where you focus your resources, which you deal with internally to your organization.

It's another to go on public record and have it reported in the news that you will no longer focus your resources on federal drug and immigration laws.


Sessions didn't say he will now focus his resources on federal drug laws. He just rescinded the de facto policy of the executive branch ignoring federal drug laws.


Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

navy



How does it feel to be the 2nd place weed troll behind el gaucho?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:44 pm to
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It's another to go on public record and have it reported in the news that you will no longer focus your resources on federal drug and immigration laws.


first off Immigration wasn't what we were talking about

Second your stance sounds like not that is was a bad idea but that you didn't like the politics of it. Okay I guess.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24649 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Sessions torched by lawmakers for marijuana move



Was reading an article where this move was a strike at California's billion dollar industry. They want to maintain sanctuary cities, then they'll lose out on marijuana proceeds.

Not a pothead and enjoy Melts!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

first off Immigration wasn't what we were talking about


Of course it wasn't. But I included it because it was the other federal law the Obama administration decided to ignore.

quote:

Second your stance sounds like not that is was a bad idea but that you didn't like the politics of it. Okay I guess.


No, I don't like the executive branch of the government, who's specific function is to enforce and execute laws passed by Congress, publicly declaring they will ignore certain federal laws.

Political party and politics have nothing to do with it.


Listen, I get it. You're pro-legalization. But so am I. Big time.

But there is the CORRECT way to legalize marijuana, and the Obama administration's actions that Sessions just fixed is NOT the way to do it.

CONGRESS is the sole agency that should be addressing the law, because it is their function to write and change the laws of this land. Period.

The only other correct option would be a constitutional amendment.

This post was edited on 1/5/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7637 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 1:00 pm to
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But there is the CORRECT way to legalize marijuana, and the Obama administration's actions that Sessions just fixed is NOT the way to do it.


That's fair. I guess the part that worries me is that everyone knows Sessions has an agenda here. Going after weed has been on the top of his list of stuff he wanted to do. So admittedly the Obama policy may have been disingenuous. Sessions getting rid of it is just as disingenuous because he's doing it under the guise of enforcing a law the majority of Americans and Congress don't want enforced.
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