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re: Serious question to those who feel this is being overblown

Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18851 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:31 pm to
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It's stunning how a 2 wk shutdown has caused some folks to lose their fricking minds.


That two week shutdown is costing some people their livelihood. That's where the losing their mind part comes in to play
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:34 pm to
This obviously transfers faster than the flu, but it doesn't affect the wide range of ages like the FLU.

We also have vaccines for the flu, yet millions get infected every year.

Also, California. They should be getting ravished by this. They aren't. Probably because it had been there since the fall.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30902 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Serious question to those who feel this is being overblown


.0011% of the residents of Louisiana are reported to have contracted Covid-19. That's not 1.1% just in case you get confused. The Governor has shut down the State. You tell me. Is this being over blown?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:36 pm to
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used Italy because they are about 2-3 week ahead of the States and a lot of other places in terms of when the virus really began to spread and take hold. Over 12k have died in 30 days in Italy.


They aren't 2-3 weeks ahead of us.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:41 pm to
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The Governor has shut down the State. You tell me. Is this being over blown?



What in this makes you think it is?

Do you believe 'shutting down' the state doesn't help eliminate the spread?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:41 pm to
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I am curious to find out if the flu death rate goes up or down or stays the same during all this


I have read but have not been able to verify personally (on CDC website, for example) that pneumonia and influenza deaths are substantially down as COVID deaths emerge, which of course would make you wonder if the people we're trying to save from COVID would be dying from the next available virus.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112545 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:43 pm to
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I have read but have not been able to verify personally (on CDC website, for example) that pneumonia and influenza deaths are substantially down as COVID deaths emerge, which of course would make you wonder if the people we're trying to save from COVID would be dying from the next available virus


Apparently, C-19 cures a lot.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:45 pm to
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Apparently, C-19 cures a lot.


Including rising GDP and falling unemployment.
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1336 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Also, California. They should be getting ravished by this. They aren't. Probably because it had been there since the fall.


Numbers started to spike last week in the Central Valley north of Los Angeles. Temperatures just started increasing in the Valley, hopefully some sunshine and people staying inside will keep this at bay. There’s 1MM people in the metro with a history of poor medical coverage in the area.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28325 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:49 pm to
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what threshold has to be crossed for you to change your mind?


It’s a good question, and I have posed the same question to myself...

For starters, I would probably need the number of COVID deaths in the US to pass the annual number of flu deaths in the Us.

Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30902 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Do you believe 'shutting down' the state doesn't help eliminate the spread?



Logic would say yes but do you think it was necessary? That's the question. Do you think Covid-19 just showed up in the last two weeks of February?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Logic would say yes but do you think it was necessary? That's the question.


I don't possess the medical knowledge of viruses to answer this. My hunch would be that you do not either.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62433 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:00 pm to
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I don't possess the medical knowledge of viruses to answer this. My hunch would be that you do not either.


You think the decision should be based solely on medical knowledge?
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2889 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:01 pm to
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We also have vaccines for the flu, yet millions get infected every year.


There are three main reasons for this:

1. Only a percentage of the population actually get the flu vaccine. Too few really.

2. The Flu virus mutates so rapidly that we have to guess which strain or strains to put in each year's vaccine. The result is inconsistent year to year.

3. Vaccines don't block you from getting infected with a virus, they arm your immunity with the antibodies and ability to identify a particular pathogen giving most people the ability to more effectively fight an infection. In the case of the flu, an effective vaccination may only reduce the severity of a flu infection, not stop you from becoming symptomatic.

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Also, California. They should be getting ravished by this. They aren't. Probably because it had been there since the fall.


If that were true then it would have been apparent at California hospitals by now.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm to
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You think the decision should be based solely on medical knowledge?


Probably not entirely.

Majorly based, if you made me pick my preference.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:05 pm to
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I was responding to someone who said they would take Corona seriously when it hit H1N1 numbers - which killed 12k in the USA in an entire season
yeah and there were 20mil cases after 6 months in the us alone. do you honestly think 19 is going to be anywhere near that?

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I used Italy because they are about 2-3 week ahead of the States and a lot of other places in terms of when the virus really began to spread and take hold. Over 12k have died in 30 days in Italy
so you're just basically repeating an already refuted point. got it.

quote:

Sorry if the truth hurts
whatever genius.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62433 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:06 pm to
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Probably not entirely.

Majorly based, if you made me pick my preference.


I find this thinking to be odd.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:06 pm to
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You think the decision should be based solely on medical knowledge? Probably not entirely. Majorly based, if you made me pick my preference.
Why?

The economic impact on people is just as important.

Frankly, this entire episode has shown just how much lip service everything ever said about caring about the little guy and small business has always been.

We've got a bunch of people who will likely weather the economic storm looking down their noses at everyone who won't and basically saying, "suck it up because I'm showing how noble I am right now!!!!"

It's just another fancy way of "helping" at other people's expense and then patting oneself on the back for it.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Probably not entirely.

Majorly based, if you made me pick my preference.


Question for you ... if we fought heart disease or the opioid epidemic like we are C-19, what do you think that would look like?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:07 pm to
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I find this thinking to be odd.


That most of the decision making about a virus should be left to medical knowledge?
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