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Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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I've already corrected that one.
I don't think it took.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:52 pm to Powerman
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We account for 37% of global defense spending
That's great, but it's still only a small piece of our federal spending. Which, again, was your objection before you started moving the goal posts.
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I think we have some room to cut
To what? You won't answer that.
Just like Climate alarmists who can't tell you what our average temperatures should be, they are just certain that they shouldn't be what they are.
Give me a number.
8%?
5%?
Let's hear what it should be if a historic low of 11% is still too high.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:52 pm to wackatimesthree
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That's great, but it's still only a small piece of our federal spending.
Not really
It's still a very big chunk
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:56 pm to Powerman
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Not really
It's still a very big chunk
bullshite. Almost 90% of the budget is not defense.
If you won a million dollars in the lottery and were taxed at 89%, would you say to yourself, "Well, I still got to keep a very big chunk of that?"
Just take the L, dude.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:57 pm to wackatimesthree
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bullshite. Almost 90% of the budget is not defense.
If you won a million dollars in the lottery and were taxed at 89%, would you say to yourself, "Well, I still got to keep a very big chunk of that?"
Just take the L, dude.
Once again, the denominator getting bigger doesn't mean that defense spending is minimal
Your failure to see this is bewildering
Posted on 11/24/25 at 6:58 pm to ragincajun03
Needs to go to deficit reduction.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:00 pm to Powerman
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Once again, the denominator getting bigger doesn't mean that defense spending is minimal
Once again, that affects every single line item the same way, not just defense.
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Your failure to see this is bewildering
Your failure to admit this is typical.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:04 pm to wackatimesthree
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Once again, that affects every single line item the same way, not just defense.
Not when items like interest on the national debt and SS payments are growing for much different reasons
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:06 pm to Powerman
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Not when items like interest on the national debt and SS payments are growing for much different reasons
Nope, the math is the same regardless of the reasons for the growth.
You are the one who wants to talk about "denominators" meaning that the defense line item is artificially low as a percentage because the interest line item is growing.
That's fine, but so is every other line item as well. It's affected mathematically exactly the same way.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:13 pm to wackatimesthree
You simply don't understand the math
When the denominator explodes due to total expenditures ballooning, at some point it no longer makes sense to look at defense spending only in terms of total expenditures
The interest payments on the debt have reached critical mass where using % of total expenditures as a baseline is pure dumb frickery
When the denominator explodes due to total expenditures ballooning, at some point it no longer makes sense to look at defense spending only in terms of total expenditures
The interest payments on the debt have reached critical mass where using % of total expenditures as a baseline is pure dumb frickery
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:15 pm to ragincajun03
and 100 billion to Ukraine.....then do Isreal.....
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:16 pm to Powerman
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You simply don't understand the math
Someone doesn't.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:21 pm to Flats
Let's make this easy
Take the defense budget for FY 2001 and index it for inflation to 2025 dollars
You'd have 331.4 billion which would equal 603.7 billion in today's dollars. We are in fact spending significantly more than the 603.7 billion.
Take the defense budget for FY 2001 and index it for inflation to 2025 dollars
You'd have 331.4 billion which would equal 603.7 billion in today's dollars. We are in fact spending significantly more than the 603.7 billion.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:28 pm to ragincajun03
We haven’t received 600 bn in tariff revenue so it’s no different than a stimulus payment.
Either use the revenue to reduce the deficit, or index tariff revenues to get sent out to people in certain income brackets based on the actual revenue received so its deficit neutral
Either use the revenue to reduce the deficit, or index tariff revenues to get sent out to people in certain income brackets based on the actual revenue received so its deficit neutral
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:34 pm to deltaland
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or index tariff revenues to get sent out to people in certain income brackets
Hopefully you mean it would go to the income brackets that actually pay income tax, not another gimme to the wagon riders.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:38 pm to ragincajun03
It’s a terrible idea based on our debt level
Posted on 11/24/25 at 7:39 pm to Wally Sparks
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Is he wrong?
Yes and no.
We can’t afford to send $2,000 checks to everyone.
And Trump usually throws stuff out aiming high. So the $2,000 could end up being $1,200. And if that only goes to moderate to lower income households then the tariffs could pay for it.
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:21 pm to dgnx6
What would be the purpose of it though? Economic stimulus? If the economy was humming along just fine we wouldn't need an economic stimulus.
Or is it just another wealth distribution scheme to buy support?
Or is it just another wealth distribution scheme to buy support?
Posted on 11/24/25 at 8:23 pm to ragincajun03
Better pass these out to lock up the midterms
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