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re: SCOTUS votes 5-4 against Texas, Biden admin can remove border razor wire
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:13 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:13 pm to Indefatigable
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Current US law prohibits Texas from countermanding or deviating from the federal governments enforcement of immigration law at the Mexican border.
This isn't about immigration law. It's about invasion.
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Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
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SCOTUS can’t change law…
Well that’s not really true. SCOTUS decisions are law. Dobbs changed the law, for example.
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But I feel like you leave injunctions in place until you decide the merits.
Had the district court issued the injunction, they may and likely would have. And SCOTUS almost always stays the lower court rulings when accepting emergency applications.
The result sucks. But it’s not the end of the republic or a sign that the court is compromised.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:15 pm to Indefatigable
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The result sucks. But it’s not the end of the republic or a sign that the court is compromised.
Of course. The republic ended decades ago. We’re in the unenviable position of sitting around and watching the body cool.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:16 pm to POTUS2024
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This isn't about immigration law. It's about invasion.
Take it up with congress and the executive. Policy isn’t a judicial question.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:16 pm to Indefatigable
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Take it up with congress and the executive.
Are you intimating there are not laws on the books regarding this situation?
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:17 pm to POTUS2024
quote:Only one problem, the federal government is t enforcing the law.
Current US law prohibits Texas from countermanding or deviating from the federal governments enforcement of immigration law
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:17 pm to the808bass
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We need to take entire stadiums full of lawyers and set them on fire.
Couldn’t agree more.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:18 pm to the808bass
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Are you intimating there are not laws on the books regarding this situation?
No. I am telling you that every concern you have is the fault of Congress and the executive.
Poorly drafted and/or woefully outdated legislation is allowing the executive discretion to not secure the border appropriately.
It’s just not the Court’s fault that it cannot clean that up. The Court cannot tell the executive to strictly enforce immigration law when the actual law doesn’t require enforcement.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:19 pm to Fun Bunch
this may look like a loss in the short term. but when Biden has federal people removing the razor wire, the optics will help push Trump into a landslide victory.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:20 pm to Lsupimp
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It’s time for Texas to send tens of thousands of immigrants to DC/ No Va./Maryland generally and the five judge’s neighborhoods specifically. They can not continue to live uninterrupted in their enclaves while Texans have to deal with it daily.literally unload the buses on their front yards and let them live in the neighborhood parks in tent cities.every SINGLE immigrant should now be headed to one geographic destination.
Flood the block
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:22 pm to Indefatigable
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It’s just not the Court’s fault that it cannot clean that up. The Court cannot tell the executive to strictly enforce immigration law when the actual law doesn’t require enforcement.
See my previous post about lawyers and reference my general attitude towards the sophism that has overtaken our entire legal system.
“It’s a poorly written law.”
bullshite. You’re just jacking off about billable hours and wrestling with an innovative new legal theory.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:22 pm to Rebel
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but when Biden has federal people removing the razor wire, the optics will help push Trump into a landslide victory.
Are the voters in the half dozen swing states fed up yet with illegal immigration? That’s what it is going to take.
Abbott needs to start sending the busses to swing states.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:24 pm to Indefatigable
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The only thing SCOTUS did today was lift the 5th circuit injunction on legal grounds. One shouldn’t extrapolate anything from that beyond the fact that SCOTUS is deferring to current law in finding that TX cannot state a likelihood of success on the merits (because of said current law)
SCOTUS couldn’t really rule differently until SCOTUS hears the merits and changes the law.
4 of them did. Explain that.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:24 pm to the808bass
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See my previous post about lawyers and reference my general attitude towards the sophism that has overtaken our entire legal system. “It’s a poorly written law.” bullshite. You’re just jacking off about billable hours and wrestling with an innovating new legal theory.
The law says “may”, my guy. POTUS can allow in whatever migrants he wants as things are currently written. I don’t think the Court should be the body to change that, and I suspect that you don’t think so either. You just don’t like this immediate result.
And nothing about this is new. Again, I agree with you, Ken Paxton, and most everyone else on the merits. I just don’t think that staying an appellate injunction on emergency writ is a sign that the doomsday is upon us. This is an expected outcome.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:25 pm to Rebel
By that time the country will be in chaos. Why do I have to keep telling you people that you aren't voting yourself put of this
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:27 pm to the808bass
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See my previous post about lawyers and reference my general attitude towards the sophism that has overtaken our entire legal system.
I'm so sick of this. Cowards and opportunists all of them. They have no integrity nor honor. Ethics is far far gone on the lot.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:27 pm to loogaroo
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4 of them did. Explain that.
SCOTUS acts as a body.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:32 pm to Indefatigable
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SCOTUS acts as a body.
So they played politics.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:32 pm to loogaroo
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:34 pm to loogaroo
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So they played politics
Meh. Staying injunctions spending emergency review is SOP.
But there’s certainly no doubt that the Court doesn’t want this issue. Which is a valid concern from SCOTUS. It’s being called on to make policy because the other branches won’t.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 6:36 pm
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