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re: SCOTUS rules on Callais

Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Oswald
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:28 am to
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So, I no longer have to have Cleo as my representative?

I'm in Prairieville just a few miles south of the EBR line. My representative used to be Garrett Graves. Now it's Troy Carter out of New Orleans. He is a moron and probably couldn't find Prairieville on a map.
Posted by SoggyCerealClub
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:28 am to
I felt like this was obvious. The LA legislature picked the worst map as there were far better options for the 2nd district.

I do believe Louisiana has enough minority residents to justify a 2nd district, but it has to make sense geographically and culturally. Baton Rouge, Lafayette & Shreveport have no business being in a congressional district together.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:31 am to
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What about Texas…


What about Texas? You tell me.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
43371 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:31 am to
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So proud of my brave friend Bert Callais!

Yeah ... I started posting about it on this board the day SCOTUS put the case on their docket.

It is, imho, literally as big as Roe v Wade.

I was watching the live feed outside of the SCOTUS building early this morning and it was clear that the decision had, once again, been leaked because there were/are a shite ton of left wing protesters with pre printed signs gathering outside the courthouse.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 9:34 am
Posted by SoggyCerealClub
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:31 am to
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Some of the other options that were on the table. Ironically enough, I think Cleo Fields map was the best.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24381 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:32 am to
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that was the whole reason for the case. they gerrymandered the frick out of Louisiana to catch pockets of black communities and give them their own district because "voter rights act".


Actually, Shelly "Suck My" Dick, a far-left nutjob and completely politicized piece of f*cking filth, essentially mandated that Louisiana have two black Congressional districts, no matter how f*cking ignorant the map had to look.

She had absolutely no f*cking authority to do this and it might be one of the worst examples of legislating from the bench we’ve ever seen in this state.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16243 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:33 am to
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The state of Mississippi is ready. Special session in three weeks to go 4-0.


Mee Maw better get off her arse and do the same in Alabama. We were just forced in the last election to add a second black district, so she better be getting that remedied immediately and redraw the Birmingham/black belt seat as well while she's at it.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:35 am to
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I do believe Louisiana has enough minority residents to justify a 2nd district, but it has to make sense geographically and culturally.


The problem is that sticking with the "race = district" mindset leads us to Callias, which now underscores what we all knew and that was that districts cannot be gerrymandered based on race. Trying to make that a criteria of any level will eventually lead to what we wound up with and we know this because most (if not all) of the most egregiously-gerrymandered districts in recent memory were done specifically to give racial minorities their own district.

That is now verboten. It will likely still happen, but it's going to have to have some sort of legitimate presentation as being done based on some other criteria.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65531 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:35 am to
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What about Texas…


They already found that Texas wasn't drawn for race-based reasons.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43371 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:40 am to
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The problem is that sticking with the "race = district" mindset leads us to Callias, which now underscores what we all knew and that was that districts cannot be gerrymandered based on race. Trying to make that a criteria of any level will eventually lead to what we wound up with and we know this because most (if not all) of the most egregiously-gerrymandered districts in recent memory were done specifically to give racial minorities their own district.

That is now verboten. It will likely still happen, but it's going to have to have some sort of legitimate presentation as being done based on some other criteria.

That's not really a problem, henceforth. Any lower court will have to acquiesce to the SCOTUS decision on Callais ... if the issue is race based but also on a Constitutional basis.

Anything remotely considered unconstitutional will be smacked down. Anything that appears to be done strictly with a reactionary, or purely political, mindset will have to be struck down.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70311 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:42 am to
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VA and CA were not based upon race
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2993 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:43 am to
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The problem is that sticking with the "race = district" mindset leads us to Callias


It leads to far worse problems down the road....a slippery slope if you will. if it can be done for racial minorities then it can be done for any type of minority. where does the slippery slope stop?
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:43 am to
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What about Texas…


right after California
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13179 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:45 am to
Posted by SoggyCerealClub
Member since Apr 2026
30 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:45 am to
Yes, absolutely agree.

This specific map was chosen to give Cleo a seat and kick Graves out. Marching orders from Jeff.

There were other options presented where a 2nd minority district was created and didn’t involve piecing parts of the state together.

This is the one that made the most sense to me.

Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
43371 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:45 am to
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They already found that Texas wasn't drawn for race-based reasons.

... but, why was it redrawn? For what reasons? And was it Constitutional?

If it was redrawn for ANY reason deemed unconstitutional ... then it's on the chopping block.

All gerrymandering is done for either one of two reasons.

1 - Fair, balanced, actual population (area) based representation.

2 - To draw abstract, minority dense, maps that give Democrats the advantage and more power.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13179 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:49 am to
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quote:
VA and CA were not based upon race


No one said they were. They both have other problems though. VA has significant issues. They're going to lose big in court.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65531 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:54 am to
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... but, why was it redrawn? For what reasons? And was it Constitutional?

If it was redrawn for ANY reason deemed unconstitutional ... then it's on the chopping block.

All gerrymandering is done for either one of two reasons.

1 - Fair, balanced, actual population (area) based representation.

2 - To draw abstract, minority dense, maps that give Democrats the advantage and more power.


SCOTUS just wiped out the lower court's block on Texas's maps yesterday. I think it's safe to say they believe those maps are in keeping with this ruling.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114986 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:57 am to
fricking gutless.

Just fricking declare it unconstitutional already.

All this nibbling around the edges until we get to the level of racial discrimination that is "ok" does nothing to solve the problem.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
114986 posts
Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:58 am to
On the positive side, Cleo loses his seat again by SCOTUS ruling
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